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This birth cert will give Mary Ann's maiden name:

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
FORSDICK George Henry West Ham 4a 36

Gosh, I hope it wasn't a professional researcher and I hope you didn't pay him/her!

You didn't answer the question, Clive. Are these direct ancestors? If so which child are you descended from? Your best bet is to get that child's birth certificate to get mother's maiden name.

Margee

Thanks for that I'm go confused by the first reply as in my reseach some time ago a researcher had given me these details. Are you able to tell me then who Thomas Forsdick marry is it Margaret or Mary as there is confictiving info. Or did Thomas have two wives.
Clive

Looking at the image of the 1881 census, I don't think she is Margaret - it looks more like Maryam (could be Maryann). Further down the page Margaret is abbreviated to Margt.

Cilve, how have you got back to this couple? Are they direct ancestors? If so, have you got birth and marriage certs to take you back to them? You really need the birth cert of one of the children to confirm the mother's name.

Thomas married Frances Davies 1853, Newington:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Forsdick Name: Thomas Forsdick
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Spouse Name: Frances Davies
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1853
Parish: Holy Trinity, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Forsdick
Spouse Father Name: George Grant

She was a widow.

But as posted in the first reply Mary Bellamy did not marry Thomas Forsdick in1853, Newington. She married the other male on the page, William Willy.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Ann Elizabeth Bellamy Name: Mary Ann Elizabeth Bellamy
Spouse Name: William Willy
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Jun 1853
Parish: Holy Trinity, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas William Bellamy
Spouse Father Name: James Willy

Mary's maiden name i have as Bellamy. As of the top of the page.

They married in 1853, Newington London,Surrey

The info matches what I have although there is a difference ot first name either it is what I have Mary or Margaret?

Does this help to find Thomas Forsdick's parents and Mary Ann Bellamy's. :-)

Clive,

How do you know the maiden name of Mary? You have not answered that question.

When and where did they marry and have you got the cert ?

Does any of the info match what you have?

Members can only help so much with the info given

GB

Hi All thanks Great stuff , although where are the parents. Clive

spouse: Margaret Forsdick
children: Geo Forsdick,? Emma Forsdick...


name: Thos Forsdick
age: 44
gender: Male
birth year: 1837
birthplace: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Sawyer
address: 57 Howards Rd
census place: West Ham, Essex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341408
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1710 / 33
page number: 65

1881

Thos. FORSDICK Head M Male 44 Stone, Buckingham, England Sawyer
Margaret FORSDICK Wife M Female 45 N Ashton, Oxford, England Sawyer Wife
Geo. FORSDICK Son Male 16 Plaiston, Essex, England Labourer
Emma FORSDICK Daur Female 11 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Elizh. FORSDICK Daur Female 9 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Ada FORSDICK Daur Female 5 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Sarah WILLIAMS Visitor U Female 29 Kingsland Rd, Middlesex, England General Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 57 Howards Rd
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341408
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1710 / 33
Page Number 65

1871 ?
Name: Thomas Foerdick
[Thomas Forsdick]
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Foerdick
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Plaistow St Mary
Town: Plaistow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 185
Piece: 1633
Folio: 17
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Foerdick 34
Mary A Foerdick 35 Ashford North Aston, Kent
George H Foerdick 6
Caroline Foerdick 4
Frances E Foerdick 1
Robert Wright 21



How do you know her maiden name ?

Best I can come up with. You really need his marriage cert for his father's name.

1841 England Census

Name: Thos Forzdyke
[Thos Forsdyke]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Giles in The Fields
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South

James Forzdyke
Druscilla Forzdyke 25
Thos Forzdyke 7
James Forzdyke 3

sorry, drawn a blank on both :-(

Is this him?

1891 England Census

Name: Thomas Forsdick
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Forsdick
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 39

Thomas Forsdick 53
Mary A Forsdick 53 Where born: North Aston, Oxfordshire, England
Emma F Forsdick 21
Elizabeth A Forsdick 19
Ada F Forsdick 14

I can't see him. Here is a Thomas married to margaret - her birthplace is the one you say. Are you certain Thomas was born in the same place?

1881 England Census

Name: Thos. Forsdick
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Forsdick
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 57 Howards Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Sawyer

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham

Thos. Forsdick 44
Margaret Forsdick 45 Where born: N Ashton, Oxfordshire, England
Geo. Forsdick 16
Emma Forsdick 11
Elizh. Forsdick 9
Ada Forsdick 5
Sarah Williams 29

I hope you do not mean this marriage

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
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Bellamy Mary Ann Elizabeth Newington 1d 292
Davies Frances Newington 1d 292
Forsdick Thomas Newington 1d 292
WILLY William Newington 1d 292


As Thomas married Frances

can you help find the Parents of
Thomas Forsdick b.1837 Stone, Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England
& Mary Ann Elizabeth Bellamy b. 1836 N Aston Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Many thanks