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Trying to find birth certificate of Herbert Seth Richards to find out names of his parents.
I have two birth certificates a) 1886 Newport Monmouth Vol 11a page 209 and b) 1887 Cardiff Vol11a page 295.
Both of these are not Herbert Seth Richards.
Herbert Seth Richards married Flornce Edith Buckland and they were the adoption parents of Peter Wyndam Gash born1926 to Albert Victor Gash and Gladys Eleanor James Married 1926
Can the surplus birth certificates be of use to any other Genes members?
Regards Victor

Have you got Herberts marriage cert for his fathers name and occupation ?

This Herbert Richards was in Cardiff 1911, but I realise he might be the one born Cardiff 1887 who was the wrong one.

Edit: Morger is Morgan

census 1911

DAVIES, Morger Head Married M 72 1839 Labourer On Farm Llanharry Glamorgan
DAVIES, Athalick Wife Married 15 years F 66 1845 Carry Rivell Somerset
>>>RICHARDS, Herbert Son Single M 23 1888 Taylor Cock Hand Llandaff Yard

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32107 Reference:
RG14PN32107 RG78PN1846 RD588 SD3 ED8 SN281

Registration District:
Cardiff Sub District:
Central Cardiff Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Cardiff

Address:
82 Monthermer Road Cathays Cardiff County:
Glamorganshire

RE-MARRIAGE OF HERBERT'S MOTHER:

Marriages Dec 1894
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Davies Morgan Cardiff 11a 485
Richards Athaliah Cardiff 11a 485

Marriages Sep 1912
Buckland Florence E Richards Cardiff 11a 606
Richards Herbert S Buckland Cardiff 11a 606


Can you spot him in 1911 census, maybe a birthplace indication would help

What was Herberts occupation also

He may not have been born in England/Wales

The unwanted certs can be posted on............

www.bmdshare.com

As you quote his age when married...one assumes you have the cert?

Do you know when/where he died?

Name: Herbert Seth Richards
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1887
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1973
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Mid Glamorgan
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 261
______________________________________________________

Name: Herbert S Richards
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1943
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 120


These are the only two deaths on Ancestry with second name starting with 'S'

I have found the following death maybe him

Herbert Seth Richards
born 25/09/1887
died October quarter 1973 aged 86
Mid Glamorgan
Glamorganshire
8b 261

If he was born that close to the end of the year he is most likely to be registered in 1888

Joan

Are you sure about the birth date you've given?

Looks like the 1943 death was for Herbert Stanley.........so not 'your' chap

census 1891 for the family I posted at the beginning of the thread He is Herbert S:

RICHARDS, Athaliah Head Widow F 42 1849 Grocer Rurry Rivell Somersetshire
RICHARDS, Rosena Daughter Single F 19 1872 Help In Grocer Rurry Rivell Somersetshire
RICHARDS, Amelia J Daughter Single F 18 1873 Apprentice Dressmaking Rurry Rivell Somersetshire
RICHARDS, Henry J Son M 15 1876 Engine Cleaner Llandaff Glamorganshire
RICHARDS, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar Llandaff Glamorganshire
RICHARDS, Mary Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Llandaff Glamorganshire
RICHARDS, Charles Son M 5 1886 Scholar Llandaff Glamorganshire
>>>>RICHARDS, Herbert S Son M 3 1888 Llandaff Glamorganshire

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Piece:
4401 Folio:
107 Page:
34 Registration District:
Cardiff

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:

Cardiff Address:
6, Bloss Road, Llandaff, Cardiff County:
Glamorganshire

The births to which you refer.........

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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RICHARDS Herbert Newport M 11a 209

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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RICHARDS Herbert Cardiff 11a 295


As neither records a second name...........................

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Herbert Teth Richards
Name: Herbert Teth Richards
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age at enlistment: 28
Residence: 127 Woodville Rd, Cardiff
Document Year: 1915
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps (MT)
Number of images: 10
Boot shop manager

Marriages Dec 1870
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>>.DEWDNEY Athahah Langport 5c 685
>>DEWDNEY Athaliah Langport 5c 685
DEWDNEY Henry Langport 5c 685
>>>DEWDNY Athahah Langport 5c 685
>>>DEWDNY Athaliah Langport 5c 685
DEWDNY Henry Langport 5c 685
>>>>RICHARDS George Langport 5c 685


and remarriage of widowed Athaliah posted earlier:


Marriages Dec 1894
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Davies Morgan Cardiff 11a 485
Richards Athaliah Cardiff 11a 485

Suggestion ONLY

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RICHARDS, Herbert S
Address: 71 Tewkesbury St Cathays Cardiff


GEARING, Catherine I Head Married F 47 1864 Hampshire Whichester VIEW
GEARING, Gertrude Daughter Single F 19 1892 Dressmaker Glamorgan Cardiff VIEW
GEARING, Hilda M Daughter Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Glamorgan Cardiff VIEW
RICHARDS, Herbert S Boarder Single M 24 1887 Shop Assistant Monmouthshire Newport VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32105 Reference:
RG14PN32105 RG78PN1846 RD588 SD3 ED6 SN105

Registration District:
Cardiff Sub District:
Central Cardiff Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Cardiff

pm says father William dec. engineer

good suggestion Flick matches shop manager ?

Looks promising.........1901

Name: Herbert Richards
Age in 1901: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Woollos
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 238
Piece: 4957
Folio: 151
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Seth Richards 69
Eliz Richards 69
Herbert Richards 14
William Brown 48

Oh, well, that blows my George and Athaliah out of the water!!! :-(

And 1901

Name: Herbert Richards
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Woollos
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4371
Folio: 117
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Seth Richards 56
Elizabeth Richards 56
Herbert Richards 4
Eliza Williams 55