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Hi Tracey, Many thanks for your help. I don't know how you do it but you have given me a number of new leads. Much appreciated. Regards Vivienne :-)

Vivian,

I'm assuming you've not found this data yet?

First son, James in 1861

1861 RG number: RG09 Piece: 12 Folio: 91 Page: 20
Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: 2 St John Paddington
Address: 11, Moscow Road County: London
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GILL, James Head Married M 23 1838 Garment DyerPaddington, Middlesex
GILL, Levenia Wife Married F 23 1838 Paddington, Middlesex
GILL, Alfred J Son M 0 (9M) 1861 Bayswater, Middlesex

Possibly James's marriage

Marriages Jun 1857
Gill James Kensington 1a 80
RICHARDS Lavinia Kensington 1a 80

Alfred's Baptism

Name:Alfred John Gill
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1862
Baptism Date:5 Oct 1862
Father's Name:James Gill
Mother's Name:Lavinia Gill
Parish or Poor Law Union:Bayswater
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers

Other Baptism's for this couple.

James Gill 26 Oct 1858
Kensington St James Norlands

Mary Ann Lavinia Gill 5 Oct 1862
Bayswater, Westminster

Rebecca Maria Gill 13 Nov 1864
Bayswater, Westminster

Florence Kate Gill 2 Mar 1871
Cranley Gardens St Peter, Kensington and Chelsea


Tracey x

I'm here.... well at least for a little while !!!

I shall try and work my way through a bit whilst my fella is watching the Monarco GP!

T x

Vivienne and Margaret

Tracey has'nt been around for a while you may do better if you start your own threads

Hi Tracey, This may not be a problem to you but I have been stuck for some time on this. I cannot find the parents of David Gill (incorrectly given as Bard Tin in early census) He was born c 1809 in Bedfordshire (I think) and on 1st May 1836 when he married Rebecca Allen b. 1816 he was living in Paddington Mx. Married at St. John the Evangelist Paddington. In 1851 census he was described as a greengrocer. The only child I can find of this marriage is George Thomas Gill. Any info would be great. Regards Vivienne : :-|

Thanks for that Gins. I will give it a go but not sure how to go about it. Watch out for the site crashing!!!!!!!! :-0

Heather, her death certificate should give you more details on her death and the informant. You can order a copy from here

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Agnes Moore
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1910
Age at Death: 7
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 366



Sue, I dont know if Tracey is around today, you could try posting your own thread and see if other members can help you

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Hi, I am trying to find my paternal grandfather with very limited details about him. Are you still looking for a challenge? Am living overses now and have problem getting any info about my family so I would appreciate any help that you could give. Thanks, Sue :-)

Can you help I have just found a relative of mine died tragically in a fire in Pitt Street Preston Lancashire 1910 her name was Agnes Moore. Agnes was born c1903 in Lancashire. Is there any way I can find information. I am pretty new to all this but learning all the time. Any help would be appreciated
Thanx Heather

Perhaps you can help, trying to find more info on my great grandad Robert Thompson - Horan born in Ireland c1858 father Michael . First found him on the 1881 census in Preston Lancashire, have traced him to his death in 1944 Ambleside Cumbria but can't seem to be able to find anything prior to the 1881 census, presuming he came over just before if not 1881. anyhelp gratefully received.
Regards Heather :-D

hello tracy i could do with a bit of help, i have been looking for some time
for a marriage cert for john hamilton & margaret tully as much as i know
margaret was born st mongo's glasgow .john had somthing to do with
shoemaking i have tried scotlands people without success Ann :-)
birth dates 1838

Heather.

.....is this your man?

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Robert Horan
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1856
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1856
Parish: Holy Cross
Father's Name: Michael Horan
Mother's name: Mary Devany

Tracey x

OK here goes, I have been trying to trace my Great grandfathers parents but having no luck
MY gt grandfather Robert Horan c1858 in Ireland was on the Lancashire 1881 census and married a Catherine Finn in 1881, on the marriage certificate it states Roberts father as Michael Horan deceased, we presume he died in Ireland but up to now no luck with that, can't find out Michaels wifes name so really struggling
any help would be gratefully recieved.
Heather :-S

Thank you Tracey,

I will order marriage cert today.
Thank you for your help, and i still think i'll go to specsavers!!

Margaretx :-D

Cliffette,

She'd have been registered as Appleton because that was Annie legal name at the time. Remembering illegitimate children were frowned up.

I would wager that Elsie's mariage cert states Richard as her father... Elsie probably just didn't do the math? I suppose unless you ask direct questions you just don't realise the truth is there to be seen....

.... i would wager Frederick might not be Elsie's father and that Annie might have had a liason with someone else? Annie didn't marry Frederick for 2 more years, why wait so long when your pregnant with your prospective husbands child?

It's possible only Annie knew the truth?

i'm not too sure where this Morris guy comes into it, memories can sometimes gets confused?

I would wager this is Elsie...

Marriages Dec 1915
Appleton Elsie V Hempston Kingston 2a 1167
Hempston William Appleton Kingston 2a 1167

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....and children.

Births Dec 1916 Hempston Alfred W Appleton Lambeth 1d 487
Births Mar 1918 Hempston William Appleton Lambeth 1d 377
Births Dec 1919 Hempston Margaret E Appleton Southwark 1d 218

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This death matches both the married name and her birth year??

Name: Elsie V Hempston
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 45

Tracey x

Hi Tracey,

Yep you're right must have been Frederick, then why is she down as Appleton?

Thanks

Hi Tracey,

Thank you, think i should have gone to specsavers!
I cant believe i missed it- tut! - as per usual - i always seem to get things wrong.
Thanks

Cliffette,

So Elsie and Alice are not full siblings then?

I wonder who is Elsie's father? Could it be Frederick afterall?

Even if Elsie was born at the beginning of the 3rd Qtr, or the end of the 2nd (and registered in the 3rd) The pregnancy would still have been a year long!

Even if he got his wife pregnant immediately before he died, the earliest she could give birth and register a child that would slot into the Sept Qtr is Middle of May (allowing for the 6 weeks grace to register)! that's most def more than 9 months after 25th June 1891 !!

T x

Cliffette,

You say you've only ever found her as Braham on the census...but here she's clearly Appleton!

1911 RG14PN1767 RG78PN62 RD23 SD2 ED5 SN92
Address: 5 Dover House Haddonhall Street S E County: London
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BRAHAM, Frederick W J Head Married M 42 1869 Gas Company Labourer London Surrey
BRAHAM, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married 16 years F 43 1868 Bishopstoke Hampshire
BRAHAM, Arthur James Son M 14 1897 Messenger Boy Traves Wharf London Surrey
BRAHAM, Charles Edward Son M 12 1899 London Surrey
BRAHAM, Amelia May Daughter F 8 1903 London Surrey
APPLETON, Elsie Violet Stepdaughter Single F 18 1893 Coffee Hand Travers Wharf Winchester Hampshire


Tracey x

Hi Tracey
Richard Appletons death was 25th June 1891.
Thank you