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Hi Stuart. Thank you so much!!!!! I have spent an age on this lady. She was my husbands paternal grandmother. I will have to go to Scotlands people and make enquiries on how to get a certificate.
Thank you doesn't seem quite enough for the time that you have saved me

Dawn.

Scotlands People - pay to view site brings up this, you will need more credits to look at the fuller version
Your SR Deaths Search Returns
You searched for: Surname: "crawford"; Surname Option: Exact; Forename: "edith"; Forename Option: Prefix; Other Surname: "rowell"; Sex: "Female"; Year From: 1935; Year To: 1935; Age From: 37; Age To: 39; Include Unrecorded Ages: Off; Birth Year: 1896; Birth Year Range: 1;


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No Year Surname/Maiden Name Forename Mother's Surname Other Surnames
Sex Age District City/County/MR GROSData
1 1935 CRAWFORD EDITH MAUD ROWELL F 39 MAINS AND STRATHMARTINE /ANGUS 307/00 0001

Thank you all for your suggestions. Today I received the death certificate for the entry in 1955. Definitely not her! Where to go now??? Maybe Scotland? She wasn't born there but her husband was, maybe she is in their records. Other than that I will go down the line of Newcastle records and see if theyy can help. Will update as soon as I can.

Hope it turns out to be the right one for you Dawn. There is always the chance of human error when records are transcribed - we've all seen the mistakes made on census record transcriptions!!

Good luck.

Kath. x

Thanks for the update Dawn. Fingers crossed!

Hi Everyone
Just a quick update. The GRO cannot find the 1935 death certificate either! They are now investigating the possibility of the 1955 entry being mine. They would not even look at the idea that it may have been transcribed incorrectly, but it has now been ordered (and paid for!) so they will now look at it. Will post as soon as I hear anything.

Deaths Dec 1904 ROWELL Daisy Maud 32 Hexham 10b 241


Marriages Jun 1906
Davison Lillian Blanche Tynemouth 10b 523
Ramsey Isabella Tynemouth 10b 523
Rowell George Scott Tynemouth 10b 523
Rutherford John Tynemouth 10b 523


1911

Name: Edith Maud Rowell
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newcastle-On-Tyne, Northland
Civil parish: Winlaton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Holmside Rowlands Gill Co Durham
Occupation: School
Registration district: Gateshead
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration district: Winlaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 30521
Household Members: Name Age
George Scott Rowell 41
Lilian Blanche Rowell 38
Edith Maud Rowell 14
Violette Mary Rowell 4
Lydia Underwood 20 Servant

Births Jun 1907 ROWELL Violette Mary Tynemouth 10b 318

Name: Violette Mary Rowell
Birth Date: 17 Mar 1907
Date of Registration: May 1994
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Scarborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: A49A
District and Subdistrict: 6551A
Entry number: 290


Name: Lilian B Rowell
Birth Date: abt 1873
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1966
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Scarborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b
Page: 756


Births Mar 1913 Rowell Beatrice D Davison Gateshead 10a 2136

Name: Beatrice Dorothy Rowell
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1912
Date of Registration: Sep 2003
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: North Yorkshire
Inferred County: North Yorkshire
Register Number: L10
District and Subdistrict: 650/1L
Entry number: 58



So that isn't any help at all as it would appear that neither of her half sisters married.

Someone must have been responsible for having her name put on the headstone. Given that she had no siblings only half siblings it may be worth trying to work forward from them.

It may be a bit of a long shot but could be worth a try. My Gran used to tell me about her half sister who was actaully married before my Gran was born. My Gran was one of ten children from her father's second marriage but was probably closer to her half sister than any of her full brothers and sisters.

If I was you I would ring the GRO in Southport so that you can speak to someone. Say you want to order the death certificate that is on the index as 1955 but that you think the year might actually be 1935 and so may have been mistranscribed from the original entry.

It is too much of a coincidence that the 1955 death is the right name, in the right place in the right quarter of the year and the age at death is 58 rather than 38. I think someone has just mistaken a 3 for a 5 in both cases.

Kath. x

Thank you for your reply,Gwyn. All I know is what you see. My father in law knew that his mum died young and that no Crawford family would take them in, so thay were in a childrens home somewhere on the Medway, and were fostered out at different times (he had a brother) to families in that area. The Newcastle cemeteries people could give me no more information. I do not know where she lived at the time of her death but rumour had it that she died of influenza (she was a nurse) . I have not tried the registrar nearest to the burial ground in Jesmond. I will try that. Edith was living in the medway area when her husband died.

Where was Edith living when her husband died...was it the Medway area?

Could she have remarried, then reverted to her 1st married name at burial?

Have you checked with the registrar closest to the burial ground, incase the information never made it into the GRO master index.?

Was there no home address on the burial record.? This might give a different registration ditrict.

As the children's father had Navy connections, could they have been schooled at one of the Royal Navy homes / colleges?

Gwyn

Hi folks, sorry it's taken me so long, but here goes:
Edith maud Crawford was buried on 5th january 1935 aged 38 according to newcastle cemeteries division so the information on the headstone is correct. And according to them the majority of people were buried within 7 days of death so January 2nd would be correct!
And I am still not able to find a certificate to confirm this, what with wildcat searches and all the possibilities of spelling mistakes and her maiden name and double barrelling of it. No joy.
Thank you all for your help, and I will carry on with the search!

Her husband was a Navy man and died at the Royal Haslar hospital in Hampshire, where he was also buried. He died 17 Sept 1927 aged just 40. I will update as soon as I have spoken to Newcastle council. Thank you x

Dawn please update on here if you have any luck when you ring the council.
I wonder why she wasn't buried with her husband if he died first

The headstone does say Crawford and her father died first.

Thank you all for your replies, sorry I have only just seen them, for some reason the "watch this" is not working - or maybe my computer is playing up. I will try to ring Newcastle Council and see if they have any record. I know that the Crawford sie of the family would not take the children in when she died. Maybe I am wrong and she did leave her children when she couldnt cope. I will probably never know as my in laws died a good few years ago and I know my father in law so wanted to find his mothers grave. I thank you all for your time and effort.
Dawn x

Have you rung Newcastle Coucil who hold records for St Andrews to see if they have a record of burial?.....they are very helpful.

for info the family in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 23, Albany Gardens, Whitley

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4805 Folio: 136 Page: 25


Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: Whitley
Parish: Whitley Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Cullercoats St Paul City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 23, Albany Gardens, Whitley
County: Northumberland

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
ROWELL, George S Head Married M 30 1871 Commercial Traveller
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
ROWELL, Daisy M Wife Married F 28 1873
E C
London
ROWELL, Edith M Daughter F 4 1897
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
PROCTOR, Kathleen B Servant Single F 20 1881 General Servant Domestic
Darlington
Durham

Jan, 2 trees on ancestry have her year of birth as 1896 so I would agree that the birth you have given is correct. Also the 1955 death would also seem appropriate.

From the trees her husband died in 1927. Perhaps she left home because she just couldn't cope with two young children on her own?

Her mother had died in 1902 and Edith seems to be the only child from her father's first marriage althoug he had a daughter (b. 1907) from his second. Doesn't look as though Edith had an extended family to help with her young children.

From a transcription of the cemetery headstones
In loving memory of George Scott Rowell who died March 29
th
1926 aged 56 years. Edith Maud Crawford daughter of
the above who died January 2
nd
1935 aged 38 years.