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Yes - I had been looking at that Ginns but I can't see where it fits in.

I tried to follow the couple and did find a George and Jane who fitted on 1911 BUT I also found that Augustus was married to a Jane but the step children they had with them were called Lewis so maybe that Jane was really Jenny ???

Dea x

Gins I found them, ( Jenny and George that is ) and oddly enough they have a son of the same name...BUT they appear on a census think it was the 1901 , at the same time :-D

Confusing things firhter




Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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LEWIS Jenny Newport M 11a 233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Matthews Augustus Newport M 11a 233
STONE George Newport, M. 11a 233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Williams Jane Newport M 11a 233

No problems Gillian but could you please delete the new thread before people start finding this info all over again.

Thanks,

Dea x.

P.S. - I really don't think that George ever married Jennie - I can see no death for her under that name either and as he remarried, there should have been.

I will look further and see if I can come up with anything useful.

Dea x

Sorry everyone, I hadnt read the rules on this. Apologies.

I am assuming that Jennie and George are married on the 1901 census - and what Im hoping is that for Douglas Davies to be listed as nephew @ 9 months, that she would be his aunt (by his birth mother).

I need to find a link between Alice Ann Davies (maiden name Edwards) and Jennie I think.

Douglas Davies (Douglas Leslie Davies) was my great-grandfather.

In the 1911 Census, Leslie (Douglas Leslie) is shown as the adopted son of Joshua and Ada - Joshua is the son? of George and his first wife Mary Ann, or the brother? of George and his wife Jennie.

Thank you, and sorry again for adding a new thread.

New thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1298312?jump=1298312

Would really be better to keep the new request on here.

A MASSIVE THANK YOU to everyone today who has replied to this thread and given your time. Im sorry that we didnt get all the answers, but you've all helped clarify a number of points.

I should really now spend the evening doing the work I should have been doing all day... Ooops.

Thank you again, you are all incredibly selfless in helping others.

Its all sooooo frustrating.

I dont know why, but I keep coming back to Jennie (see note below) and whether in some way she was connected to Alice Ann Davies (the birth mother).

However other than the details on this census, I cannot find any other details about Jennie.

Any other thoughts/possibilities??? you've all been so kind and helpful.

1901 England Census about Douglas Davies
Name: Douglas Davies
Age: 9 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsdown, Kent, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Piece: 9
Folio: 142
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stone 57
Jennie Stone 45
Douglas Davies 9 Months

The handwritten notes on the marriage certificate of Douglas Leslie and Hannah Elizbeth are apparently the notes that appear in the original entry (according to the certificate wording).

Making reference to column 2 - name and surname, with a "2" over Leslie and "1" over Douglas - I think its referring to the fact that it should be the other way round, given his birth name.
Leslie Douglas Davies (although should be Douglas Leslie) is also written down the side as "3" for the surname in column 2 - this is signed by the Rector

I do have his marriage certificate, he's listed himself as Leslie Douglas Stone, but it has the name of his adoptive father - Joshua Leopold Stone - on it, with an occupation of Fitter (21st April 1924 - No. 217).

It has a load of hand-written notes down the end of the certificate which Im going to see if I can blow up on the printer and read - I can see the name Leslie Douglas Davies on it

Gillian do you have Douglas Leslie's marriage cert and if so is his father's name and occupation on it?

I think George Stone may have re-married after the death of Mary Ann Stone in 1892. Married a Jennie (but got no details) and on the 1901 census (listed earlier on this thread) Leslie (Douglas Leslie) is listed as nephew at 9 months with George and Jennie.

Could the connecion between birth parents and adoptive family of Stone, be Jennie and Alice Ann(e) Davies? Under her maiden name of Edwards, did Alice have a sibling called Jennie?

Unfortunately I have no details on Jennie.

Just to see what happened to George:-
1911

STONE, George Head Married M 67 1844 Carman Barnwood Gloucester
STONE, Mary Ellen Wife Married 7 years F 37 1874 Nottingham Notts
WILDEY, Alfred Stepson M 11 1900 Chelsea Middlesex
STONE, Mary Ellen Daughter F 6 1905 Paddington Middlesex
STONE, Amy Bertha Daughter F 4 1907 Paddington Middlesex
STONE, Rose Emma Daughter F 1 1910 Paddington Middlesex

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RG number: RG14
Piece: 44
Reference: RG14PN44 RG78PN2 RD1 SD2 ED4 SN260
Registration District:Paddington
Sub District: Paddington Central
Enumeration District: 4
Parish:Paddington
Address: 40 Alfred Road Paddington W
County:London

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Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
xxxx Burton Mary Ellen Paddington 1a 6
Leveridge William Henry Paddington 1a 6
Vickers Ada Paddington 1a 6
xxxx Wildey Arthur Joseph Paddington 1a 6

but husband didn't die until 1909:-

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
WILDEY Arthur Joseph 45 Lewisham 1d 593

..........so Mary Ellen couldn't have married George in 1904?

That's annoying - I was hoping for an actual street address!!! :-(

Dea x

I have the details on the birth certificate as:-

No. 144
Fourteenth June 1900, Kingsdown Ringwould Dover, and R.O/0(?)

Registered on Seventeenth July 1900

Registrar: ?? Pain (as the name)

Thank you all

Registration District = Dover, 1900 Birth in the Sub-district of Saint James in the County of Kent.

No. 144 - fourteenth June 1900, Kingsdown Ringwould, Dover R.O/0? (as when and where born) registered on 17th July 1900 (Registrar is ?? Pain)

What is the address on Douglas Leslie's birth cert please?

Dea x

1871 England Census about George Stone
Name:George Stone
Age:26
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Stone
Gender:Male
Where born:Barnwood Wear, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish:Paddington
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 37a
Household schedule number: 20
Piece:18
Folio: 7
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stone 26
Mary Ann Stone 29 - born: Stand, Gloucestershire
Albert Stone 1 - born: Paddington, Middlesex

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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about George Albert Stone

Name:George Albert Stone
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1870
Baptism Date:31 Jul 1870
Father's Name:George Stone
Occupation: A Carman
Mother's Name:Mary Ann Stone
Parish or Poor Law Union:Paddington St Peter
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers
Address: 37 Chippenham Mews
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Arthur Thomas Stone

Name:Arthur Thomas Stone
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1875
Baptism Date:31 Oct 1875
Father's Name:George Stone
Mother's Name:Mary Stone
Parish or Poor Law Union:Paddington St Peter
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers

baptised the same day (so another son of George and Mary):-

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Walter John Stone

Name:Walter John Stone
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1875
Baptism Date:31 Oct 1875
Father's Name:George Stone
Mother's Name:Mary Stone
Parish or Poor Law Union:Paddington St Peter
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers

unfortunately:-
Deaths Jun 1876 (>99%)
STONE Walter John 1 Kensington 1a 7
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probable marriage for George and Mary Ann:-


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Stone

Name:George Stone
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1843
Occupation: Carman
Address: 39 Princess Street
Spouse Name:Mary Ann Lewis
Spouse Age:27
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:20 Sep 1868
Parish:St Marylebone St Matthew
Borough:Westminster
Father Name:George Stone
Occupation: Labourer
Spouse Father Name:Adam Lewis
Occupation: Clothworker
Register Type:Parish Register

...............but the only way to be sure is to buy the birth cert. of one of the children.

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death of Mary Ann Stone:-

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Stone Mary Ann 49 Paddington 1a 28
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The family with Hilda in is not connected.

Hi Gins,
I found this family too - hence my asking earlier in the trail if there was a closer connection between Hilda and my great-grandfather (ie twins, albeit 5 months apart in age, if hers is correct). However, the head of the family (Emil) looked to be wrong, Im looking for an Albert George married to Alice Ann(e).

How you all keep your cool with things like this is beyond me.

Thank you for the continued support, help and suggestions.