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Malcolm

Malcolm Report 18 May 2012 14:29

i am hoping emma`s maiden name will give me the info i need then i can get the marriage cert. and hopefully that should give samuels father as james gunn to match samuels other marriage cert.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 May 2012 11:58

Somehow I don't think that's the right fellow (no son Samuel on the 1851 either). :-( :-(

I have a funny feeling that a name change of some sort has taken place with Samuel along the way. Hopefully we may get some clues from Eleanor's birth cert when you receive that.

Maureen

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 18 May 2012 10:36

hi all could this be my g.g.g.g grandfather james gunn born in 1819 bradmore notts a carpenter by trade lived in leicestershire in 1881 and 1891 census the only problem is there is no samuel gunn on the 1861 census i got the james gunn name from the marriage cert. of 1890 stating the name james gunn father of samuel gunn both carpenters

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 17 May 2012 12:49

brillient maureen you are right samuel married in 1890 to harriet trice his previous wife emma died, samuels father named as james gunn also was a carpenter, all i need now is to find his details out ie where born where and when he died and his spouse with marriage date thanks again

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 16 May 2012 17:28

Don't take my advice Malcolm, MaurreninNY, above, has found the marriage certificate online.

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 16 May 2012 17:01

thanks for that christinaS

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 16 May 2012 13:47

I've found the marriage on the CityArk site-but I'll be darned if I can find him on any census (Father is listed as James Gunn-carpenter).

Marriage cert can be viewed here:
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medway_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList=
..................
Milton next Gravesend, St. Peter and St. Paul CMB 1558-1938 (P252) click here
...........
Nearly the bottom of the page:
St. Peter and St. Paul, Milton next Gravesend
Register of marriages
Date: 1889-1896
Quantity: 1 volume/125pp.

Click on view images. It's:
00000015.jpg


Maureen

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 16 May 2012 13:33

If you get the marriage certificate for Samuel Gunn and Harriet Huneybell - 1890 - Apr-Jun- Gravesend - Vol. 2a - Page 841 this should give you the name of Samuel's father.

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 16 May 2012 06:55

thanks rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 16 May 2012 06:03

You need to get that birth cert. to get Emma's name:




IGI Individual Record

Eleanor Gunn

Event(s):
Christening:
14 NOV 1880 Horsted Keynes, Sussex, Englan

Parents:
Father: Samuel Gunn
Family
Mother: Emma

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I020156

Rose

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 15 May 2012 23:32

thanks glitterbaby a good bit of info, i would love to get samuel and emma`s marriage where and when the only posible date they could have married would be 1870 as emma would be about 17 and james was born in 1871 as normally children are born about a year after the marriage date and thanks again for that info

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 May 2012 22:59

Think the marriage references have got mixed up



Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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GUNN Samuel Gravesend 2a 844
Hoiles Charles Robert Gravesend 2a 844
PULLEN Frances Caroline Gravesend 2a 844



Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Barnes Martha Gravesend 2a 841
Freeman Maria Jane Gravesend 2a 841
HUNEYBELL Harriet Gravesend 2a 841
Huneysell Harriet Gravesend 2a 841
Martin George Gravesend 2a 841

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 May 2012 22:40

What about this one already posted


Births Dec 1880
GUNN Eleanor - Cuckfield 2b 147


Which child is your direct ancestor ?

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 15 May 2012 22:33

hi mike p cannot find any birth certificate for any of the family names mentioned telephoned record offices they do not exist on their data base the info i got from mariecelesre was my g.g.father james was killed at sea in 1898 i am at a loss the surmames for edith and alfred don`t know but no relation as is harriet again cannot find a marriage cert for them did samuel divorse emma or did she die ? regards

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 May 2012 21:43

1891 just for info

Name: Samuel Gunn
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Gunn
Gender: Male
Where born: Gainsborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 646
Folio: 31
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Gunn 46
Harriet Gunn 51
James Gunn 18
Samuel Gunn 16
Edith Huney Cell 17
Alfred Cell 13

Class: RG12; Piece: 646; Folio: 31; Page: 12; GSU roll: 6095756.


Gainsborough could be Guisborough on image

Name correction for Edith to read Edith Hunneybell

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 May 2012 21:38

Can only repeat the advice already given
Buy your grandparent's birth certificate to check Mother's name.

What surname for Edith and Alfred ?

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 15 May 2012 20:59

can anyone shed a light on my last post ?

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 15 May 2012 08:14

i have records for samuel gun [should be gunn ] 1881 census living in surrey with wife emma [1853] born in coleshill warwickshire sons james 1871 samuel 1879 born in middlesbrough [ helenor 1881 born horested keynes sussex]
in the 1891 census samuel is married to a harriet and two step children edith and alfred his sons are samuel 1875 james 1873 [a few years age differance born in guisborough [ cloe to middlesbrough and they live in gravesend kent, there is no sign of emma and helenor

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 15 May 2012 01:28

Which one of their children is your grandmother/grandfather? You need to buy that birth cert and Emma's maiden name will be listed.

Rose

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 May 2012 00:07

Cuckfield covers Horsted Keynes

Births Dec 1880
GUNN Eleanor - Cuckfield 2b 147