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Exactly,Barry!

Just a note to Lima-I think you can log in to Mundia using whatever username etc you used to use on Ancestry.

Maureen

Hi Lima, if you don't have a sub to Ancestry you can search the trees and contact owners on their sister site Mundia http://www.mundia.com/gb/

You can view those trees for free on this link

https://www.mundia.com/gb

It would be a good idea to look at them yourself because I think there is a crossover in info between the 2 couples eg no children attached to the London born Percy .Children that you are aware of and US service records attached to the Bradford born Percy
Bradford born Percy's parents are shown as Thomas Howard and Martha Nanson
London born Percy's parents shown as James Howard and Ann Esther Foster

Percy was born in Kentish Town. Parents James and Ann.

Lima

A few of their graves are listed here......its free to search


http://www.findagrave.com/

No I don't have her maiden name. I think they just got married before they went off to the States.I think they travelled with another coulpe as I have seen a photo..

A tree on Ancestry gives the birthplace of the Percy Howard who married Gertrude as Bradford not London. Date of birth 24 March 1882, died 1950. Parents Thomas Howard and Martha Nanson.

There is another tree with a Percy Howard born Kentish Town, London, 1 Aug 1882. Parents James Howard and Ann Foster.

Could both have emigrated to Massachusetts?

Social Security Death Index
Name: Claude G. Howard
SSN: 027-03-7248
Last Residence: 01845 North Andover, Essex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 12 Nov 1911
Died: 25 Aug 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

His wife?

Social Security Death Index
Name: Edith G. Howard
Last Residence: 01845 North Andover, Essex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 19 Sep 1915
Died: 4 Apr 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

Massachusetts, Town Vital Collections, 1620-1988
Name: Edith Gertrude Wining
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1915
Event Type: Birth
Event City: North Andover
Father Name: James Wining
Mother Name: Margaret McCarson

What was Odella's maiden name???
"Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915," Claude Galiam Howard, 1911
name: Claude Galiam Howard
event date: 12 Nov 1911
event place: Barre, Massachusetts
father: Percy Howard
mother: Edith Mc Donald
volume/page/certificate number: p. 254
film number: 2409267
digital folder number: 4401715
image number: 775

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003 about Claude G Howard
Name: Claude G Howard
Certificate: 043270
Death Place: Andover
Death Date: 25 Aug 1997
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 12 Nov 1911

Maureen

I dont have access to Ancestry anymore! Is it a public tree?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Horace Howard
Name: Horace Howard
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Irish Free State
[Ireland]
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1909
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Howard
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Horace Howard 23
Anna Howard 24


From a tree at Ancestry

Horace (Huck) Howard
Harker Family Tree
Birth: 30 6 1906 (30 Jun 1906) - Northern Ireland
Marriage: 11 10 1929 (11 Oct 1929) - Lawrence, Essex County (Essex), Massachusetts
Death: 10 1981 (Oct 1981) - Lawrence, Essex County (Essex), Massachusetts
Parents: Percy Howard, Edith J Donnely
Spouse: Ann T Mithen

there's a tree on Ancestry with his first wife dying in 1921 and him re-marrying Gertrude Brailsford in 1923

there's a great deal of info on the tree, including photos and stories

Oh Wow!!! Vernon went over to California. Thanks everyone this is real progress!

Daughter Lillian must have married a Mr Rogers. Got Percy's date of birth brill. He wasn't born in Bradford though.

Social Security Death Index

Name: Vernon Howard
SSN: 565-52-5581
Last Residence: 90713 Lakewood, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born: 12 Oct 1908
Died: Jun 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: California (1956)

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name: Percy Howard
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1882
Birth Place: Bradford, England
Residence: Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Colour of Eyes/Hair:

Signature: View image


Address - 461 Broadway, Lawrence, Essex, Mass.

Name and address of person who will always know your address -

Mrs. Lillian Rogers, 39 Cedar Street, Haverhill, Mass.

That must be him. He was a bit of a one by all accounts!!!

looks like Percy might have re-married - think this is him -

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Percy Howard
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Gertrude Howard
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Household Members: Name Age
Percy Howard 47
Gertrude Howard 42
Lillian Howard 13
Edith Howard 11
Marion Howard 6
Charley Howard 2
[2 11/12]
Claude Howard 19



Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts; Roll: 898; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 129; Image: 980.0; FHL microfilm: 2340633.

Have you put them in your tree on here, so others can contact you?

I think they are several people on here with various children in their trees. Suggest you contact them.

I think someone did have my Percy Howard but dont remember it going anywhere.