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MC - does this help..........from my friend....


"Looking a Hindley Cemetery this man John Whittle was buried 12th February 1913 with his wife Alice - grave B4-411 (CofE)

Alice died at 9 Peter Street, Marsh Brook in 1896 - Burial 5th December wife of John of Westhoughton.

At the time of Johns death he is living at 153 Castle Hill - which was his residence in 1901 I will also look at 1911 if you like?

It seems to me he possibly didn't marry this Elizabeth from Dublin who he is with in 1901 as there is no listing anywhere of a marriage to a Chivers, not even on Ancestry."


I have told my friend that we have the 1911.


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Wonder if Chivers is a mispronunciation for Jeves. However, still can't find a marriage between Whittle and Jeves. This was an 1897 registration on Lancashire bmd

WHITTLE Elizabeth Hindley Wigan & Leigh JEVES HNDL/130/96

Vera

I'd looked at Chevers and Cheevers etc Vera......hadn't thought of Jeves!

As you say though, no marriage with those names :-(


We could do with some feedback from the OP....will send a pm. :-)

Just in case there is a link to the name Jeves. Could be a relative or maybe
Elizabeth changed her name.

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Bridget Jyves Or Iyves Name: Bridget Jyves Or Iyves
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Jul 1877
Birth Place: Inchaguire Or Inchaquire, Kildare, Ireland
Father's Name: James Jyves Or Iyves
Father's Birth Place: Inchaguire Or Inchaquire
Mother's name: Rose Dugan Jyves Or Iyves
FHL Film Number: 255989

Vera

pm from Joan:

Many thanks for finding my family. I will give you what I know. Some pf the following info came either by Ancestry . Middleton and Woods undertakers and certs.

Elizabeth Chivers could have been born in 1892
Death cert no HC924578 - no 376. 9th Feb 1913 John Whittle [my grandfather] 153 Castle Hill Rd. Hindley age 61.

1st April cert HC924577.Elizabeth Whitle nee Chivers [age 80] died ward 4 Upholland Rs. Billinge and Winstanley.[same address]Widow of John Whittle

Birth cert - CM874895 no 121. 19th June 1900 same address. Joseph Whittle [my father] His father was John Whittle. Mother Elizabeth Whittle formaly Chivers

Marrage cert AB158439. no. 241. 8th Sept 1945 Joseph Whittle [ my father married my mother] Margaret Markland at St. Benedict's church Hindley Wigan.

Death cert FC591090 [my father] Joseph Whittle 30th Dec 1960. in Wythenshaw Hospital Wythenshaw. address then 185 Sandy Lane Hindley.Wigan.

Alice 1st wife of John Whittle died 5-12-1896 aged 44 yrs. and lived at 9 Peter St. Marshnrook, Westhaughton .

John and Alice had Rueben died 1953 aged 61.

Jane died 21-12-1963 aged 81. was 14 in 1911 cencus.
Ambrose in 1911 was 15 yrs old
Living at 153 Castle Hill Rd. in 1911 cencus was the following info
John Whittle age 47. Elizabeth age 35 Thomas age 15, Reuben age 10 Abram AGE 7 then Joseph age 9 months [my dad]

I haven't a clue when the daughter of John and Elizabeth died.
Many thanks for all your trouble. There musy be some next of kin out there. Regards Joan.
That is all I have for now.

(Have asked for replies on here).

Joan - you say Elizabeth died 1st April - which year?

You're saying she may have been born 1892 - the census records show she must have been a lot older than that.

If we can just get the facts absolutely clear then we may be able to start looking for her family.