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This looks like the same family as the 1861..another Sutcliffe connection



1871 England Census
Name: Richard Law
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Law
Mother's name: Mary Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Bacup, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Newchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bacup
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Newchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 4134
Folio: 53
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Law 70
Mary Law 67
Richard Law 41
Emma Sutcliffe 6

thanks Mel

I have all the details of Robert from his marriage to his death but am having difficulty identifying his parents as there are several possibles

I was hoping that finding John law's wife would help

believe it or not there are several Sutcliffe Sutcliffe/Greenwood/Law/Mitchel names in Todmorden

it seems to have been common practice - there are also Greenwood Greenwoods etc

Relationships were not recorded in 1841

Robert Sutcliff died 26th May 1862 as I put in the earlier posting of the probate.

The only ones I seem to find are Worsted Weavers! But this looks a bit interesting as this one has a son called Sutcliff.

1841 England Census
about John Law
Name: John Law
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Halifax
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub-registration district: Todmorden
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1301
Book: 7
Folio: 20
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
John Law 50
James Law 45
Zacheriah Law 42
William Law 35
Sutcliffe Law 30 ********************
Nathan Law 30
Betty Law 75
Sally Law 30

thanks reggie

I had not done any research on this family for a while but I had a feeling I had looked for them a few years ago and not found them

when I get home I will check when the will was made to see if it was before 1861 as in the will itself they are described as in Littleborough

Robert Sutcliff late of Oldroyd in the township of Langfield in the parish of Halifax in the county of York Gentleman deceased who died the 26th May 1862 at Oldroyd aforesaid was proved at Wakefield by the oaths of Abraham Mitchell of Littleborough in the county of Lancaster Innkeeper and John Law of the same place innkeeper two of the executors.

£200

thanks Gins

that one could be worth loking at

The Probate record is very clear that both Law and Mitchell were resident in Littleborough at the time..........but I'm blowed if I can see either of them in 1861

thanks Reggie

I wondered about that one but the area of Wardle put me off as there is another Sutcliffe family in Wardle and I think my Sutcliffes were more from the Yorkshire side of Todmorden, Langfield and Heptonstall

It is proving difficult to identify the right family which is why I was trying to find John Law's wife, but again there are a few Law families

1861 England Census
Name: John Law
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Oliviger, Lancashire, England
[Cliviger]

Civil parish: Newchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Newchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 3053
Folio: 103
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Law 64 <<Outdoor labourer
Mary Law 60
Richard Law 32
William Sutcliffe 72

Speculation...............

Marriage: 29 Aug 1822 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
John Law - Fuller of Wardle
Hannah Sutcliffe - (X), Spinster of Wardle
Witness: Ot. Lee; Thos. Fletcher
Married by Banns by: Wm. Hodgson Officiating Minister
Register: Marriages 1822 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 124, Entry 371
Source: LDS Film 1545794

I suppose the only importance of the date is whether John was in Littleborough in 1851 as well.

He was certainly in Littleborough in June 1862 from the probate record which I do have here.

As he was an executor , the date the Will was written isn't important

I am not at home at the momemnt so do not have the actual will to hand - just the transcription which for some reason I had only done the will itself.

It was for a robert sutcliffe who died in 1862 in Todmorden.

Both John Law and the other executor, Abraham Mitchel were desribed as brothers in law, both innkeepers of Littleborough (not sure whether that would have been classed as Lancashire or Yorkshire at the time). As Robert wife was a mary Mitchel, Abraham was presumably Mary's brother and John was married to Robert's sister

For anyone not sure.........Littleborough is Rochdale area

Hi Ann


When did he die and where abouts are we looking?


Edit: Sorry, I missed the area!

x

When was the Will drawn up?

What was the name of the deceased?

Please can anybody find a John Law, innkeeper in Littleborough in the 1861 census

I have no more details about him, just trying to link him to one of my families as he was described in a will as 'brother in law' to someone who was born c1801

I would guess he was born late 1700's or early 1800's