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WILLIAM STONE born Bristol but married in India

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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 01:06

Christine I can't find any of the children on further census.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 01:18

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about William Stone
Name: William Stone
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Barton Regis
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 67

Christine

Christine Report 15 Jul 2012 01:38

Thanks Mel.

I keep looking at this one for 1891. Says he is married, but no wife with him.

Address 49, Summer Hill
Parish Bedminster
District Bedminster, Bedminster
Administrative County Somersetshire
Householder 1
Name Eli Francis Elliott
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Warehouseman
Birth Place Frome
Birth County Somersetshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Jane Elliott
Age 28
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Westbury
Birth County Wiltshire
Householder 3
Name Joseph Cockle
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation General Labourer
Birth Place Westbury
Birth County Wiltshire
Householder 4
Name Willian Stone <<<
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Warehouseman
Birth Place Bristol St Philips
Birth County Gloucestershire
Householder 5
Name Willian Richards
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Warehouseman
Birth Place ?
Birth County Gloucestershire


Christine

Christine Report 15 Jul 2012 01:44

A long shot!

1901
Name Margaret Stone
Relation to Head of Family Inmate
Age Last Birthday 69
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Nurse
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Where Born Derby <<<<
Address Manor Road Fishponds Bristol
Civil Parish
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish
Parliamentary Borough or Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Bristol
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District
Language
Infirmity
Reference Information
Folio 140
Page 36
Piece 2397

May have been in hospital in 1891?

Widow, which fits with the 1895 death of a William Stone?

Deaths Mar 1906
Stone Margaret Jane 75 Bristol 6a 130

Christine

Christine Report 15 Jul 2012 01:48

I suppose it is possible that William's father took his family to India before the 1841?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Jul 2012 07:52

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Find My Past

Name: STONE, Margaret J
Mother's name: Not available before 1966
Regiment:23rd Foot
Place : Bombay
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1868
Volume : 1313
Page: 26
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)


Name: STONE, William
Mother's name: Not available before 1966
Regiment:23rd Foot
Place : Fyzabad
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1862
Volume : 1313
Page: 8
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)


Name: STONE, Joseph E
Mother's name: Not available before 1966
Regiment:23rd Foot
Place : Jubbulpore
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1866
Volume : 1313
Page: 20
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)


Name: STONE, George H
Mother's name: Not available before 1966
Regiment:23rd Foot
Place : Agra
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1863
Volume : 1313
Page: 12
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

(the above Certs. can be ordered usual way, but on Overseas Births)

Chris :)

Vera

Vera Report 15 Jul 2012 08:15

Received the Indian Mutiny Medal 1857 to 1859

Stone William 1/23 F Private ( 1st Battalion 23rd Foot (Royal Welsh Fusiliers)

I wonder if this is your William.


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 15 Jul 2012 08:30

Could this be your William when he first joined the East India Co., Army

Bombay Soldiers Records 1851-1857 L-Z
Entered the Service 1853
Surname Stone
Forename(s) William
Rank or Situation Private 3rd European Regt.
Regimental Number 302
Occupation before Enlisting Labourer
Town and County Bristol, Bristol
Where first enlisted Bristol
Date of Attestation 24 August 1853
Term of enlisted service 10 years
In what ship arrived from Europe, or Service Entertained Vernon
Year of Arrival or When that service entertained 1853
IOR Reference L/MIL/12/114



Families In British India Society Familyrelatives.com Official website ...

http://www.familyrelatives.com/Families_In_British_India_Soci



Regards Vera

Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 08:56

Thank you everyone for your replies.

Christine:
This is the correct family as William Stone grand daughter married Eli Elliott son. Thank you as i have not been able to find this. So at least i do know that William was alive in 1891. William age was 55

Also the 1901 census you have for Margaret could be right as i says she was living in Bristol but from Derby. I notice if had her profession as a Nurse. I wonder if that was how they met in India?

I do not know if Margaret had a middle name but its still possible with the death you found. It just the age on it put her about 5 years older

Mel:
This could be the correct death in 1895 then as i still can not find anything in 1901. The age on there is right as well at 59.
Shame could not find anything on the passenger list.. But it does seem to look like he was in the Fusiliers

Chris:
I do not have Find my past to be able to find this information:
I follow down from Francis C Stone. I have not ordered oversea certificates before would i have to order it on Find my past website.
Was you able to find the information on Francis as he was not on the list above.
Does this site also show marriages in India??
All the information you sent says he was in the 23rd foot

Vera
As Chris sent the birth details for the children showing the 23rd foot then this could be for William. AS at the moment i did not know why William was in India. But all this information i am now thinking that William was in the Fusiliers and met Margaret in India as she was a nurse...

I will have to try and confirm so of this..
If i could maybe find the details for Francis birth and order his certificate.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Jul 2012 09:04

Couldn't see one for Francis, or Marriage, but other names should help with Mothers Maiden name, hopefully to help carry on...
Order from GRO as normal, Overseas Births.


http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php

(above, another link for Fibis)

Chris :)

Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 09:17

Chris
Thank you again for looking. I will go and see what i can order.

Mel
The marriage you found for Joseph and Annie Batt is correct.
The other children marriages are:
Francis to Ada Radnedge in 1896.
George to Sarah Ann Forse in 1900.
Margaret to William Norris in 1889

I do have Francis and George copy of there marriages..
But not Joseph and Margaret yet.


I am going to look through all this information.

Thank you everyone for your replies.

Tina

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 10:20

Morning Tina.

So glad you got more info from the other helpers. Chris and Vera are very good.

I just could'nt leave it alone last night and carried on till late.

I did see the census with William Stone aged 55 and wondered but was so tired by this time I could'nt follow it through.

Mel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 10:29

Francis Charles Stone
England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
residence: 16 Feb 1896 Somersetshire,? Bedminster,? St Silas
marriage: 16 Feb 1896 Bedminster,? St Silas,? Somersetshire,? England
parents: William Stone
spouse: Ada Maria Radnedge


Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 10:38

Mel
Yes that is the correct marriage.
All i have to do more is go backwards and find William parents and Margaret maiden name..
It only taken me about 3 years to get this far as i stopped at this point on the family due to being born/married in India and i just did not now where to go to get the information.

I should also be able to find William somewhere on the 1841 and 1851 if he did not join up until 1853
Tina

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 10:51

1901 England Census
about Frank Stone
Name: Frank Stone
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ada Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Piece: 2390
Folio: 35
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Stone 25
Ada Stone 25
Laura Stone 7
Ada Stone 5
Frank Stone 1
Lizzie Hayward 21 Border***** was'nt there a child Lizzie??


Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 11:06

Mel
This is not the correct family. I started to go wrong here..
The 1901 censes it only has Ada on it but i do not know where Francis was.
My couple only had 2 children..

I think i may have to have another look at the 1851 for William

Tina

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 11:29

1861 England Census
about William Stone
Name: William Stone
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Enfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: ENGINEER

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Enfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 800
Folio: 66
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Cade 34
Harriet Cade 33
George Cade 10
John Cade 8
Tom Cade 6
Fredk Cade 4
Isabella Cade 2
Ellen Cade 9 Months
William Stone 26 MARRIED***************?????????????


Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 11:52

Mel
Thank you again for your reply
I dont think this is him either. It seems that he must have joined the Fusiliers in 1853 and went to India then. I dont know when he came back only that his last child was born in 1873 India and then he is on the 1881 census.
My William Stone is going around and around in my head now and i can not out him down...lol
This is why i had to stop the research before.
I am going to look at the Fusilier side to, as i did not know about that

Tina


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2012 12:14

This is the census from Ancestry that Chris put up. they have William's age wrong but on the form in a circle under age is 55.

The only trouble is that Eli Francis Elliot married Mary JANE Cockell and a Joseph Cockle is also a lodger.

1891 England Census
about Eli Francis Elliott
Name: Eli Francis Elliott
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Elliott
Gender: Male
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Nativity
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1951
Folio: 116
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Eli Francis Elliott 31
Mary Jane Elliott 28 Born Westbury Wilts****************
Joseph Cockle 22 *****************
William Stone 80
William Richards 29

This lady was also Mary Jane and not Mary Ann as William's dau was.

Married 10th June 1889 St Mary Recliffe Church, Bristol

Children
William Francis Elliott
1892 – 1937
Walter Reginald Elliott
1894 – 1949
Maude L Elliott
1896 –
Dorothy Maud Elliott
1898 –

There is even a picture of Mary Jane Cockell on a tree on Ancestry.

Tina

Tina Report 15 Jul 2012 12:25

Hi Mel
Mary and Joseph are siblings.

I think i may also order the 2 death certificates for both Margaret and William which will confirm there ages.

I do have a picture of Mary

Tina