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sorry her maiden name*

that death from patchem ties in with her birth

Birth Record Name Frances Screaton
Year of Registration 1935
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Melton Mowbray
Registration County Leicestershire
Mother's maiden name Screaton
Volume Number 7A
Volume Page 441



well done patchem good work :-)

There looks to be a Jones/Screaton birth in 1968.

Will pm it.

Have you contacted anyone else on genes who has Frances in their trees?

Hi Isobel.

Not in this instance as when she re-married Widdowson was her actual surname, after divorce many women revert back to their maiden name and if Frances had done it would have shown as Frances Screaton.married Mr K Jones.

Her headstone just shows she was initially Frances Screaton.

Hope this clears that bit up for you.

thank you patchem just seen you found her death entry,her daughters believed she was 39 at her death so that is very likely her x

patchem-yes i have tried to contact a few people on genes to see if they are close relatives,im just waiting on some replys.

Kay thank you yes that makes sense thank you x

A tree on ancestry confirms that dob and death. It shows 6 siblings for Frances, 3 of which have died by now.

Births from the second marriage should show Screaton as the maiden name. Looks like she had 3 daughters to Widdowson between 1956 & 1959.

yes i know of the 3 daughters to widdowson,i just wondered if the rumours of her re-marry and having more children were true and its appears to be.

Was there a Rose on the sibling list? and a harold?

thanks flip x

Sorry, but no Rose or Harold - but the living siblings are hidden.

There's Violet 1920 - 2003, Beatrice 1924 - 2010 and George Alfred 1932 - 2001.

i have a sourse which has,violet,marie,beatrice,kathleen,george,and frances. thank you flip x

According to the tree the parents are George Alfred Screaton (b1886) and May Passingham Screaton (1900 - 1978) but I can't find a marriage for them. And the births of the children give mmn as Screaton??

yes ive come across this but it had father as unknow and i wondered why the children had there mothers name,do you know of any reasons why this would be?

I assumed that Frances and Rose were illegitimate as they had no separate Father's name (Rose just popped up on a quick search)

Looking at the bmd, this could be the parents:

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Screaton George Alfred Barrow S. 7a 173

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Screaton May Passingham Barrow S. 7a 172


But I'm not sure about that tree. I have a link to Barrow upon Soar parish records, I'll try to find it & post up.

http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/availablechurchandbu.html

Parish records, but I haven't tried to check them yet.

what makes you think frances was illegitimate patchem?

thank you flip that would be great

Don't think it will be a lot of use, just tried to find George & May's birth but no luck.

i cant open the files as i dont have ms excel :(

Don't worry, there's nothing to find. There aren't any christenings recorded, or marriages.

However, that tree has George Alfred getting married to Eliza Botterill in June 1907 (Barrow upon Soar), although there is something wrong with the bmd indexing I think they may be right. There's a marriage for him, with a missing female, and a marriage for her with a missing male, June qtr 1907.

Maybe he wasn't free to re-marry?

If Mr Jones marries Miss Brown, the child e.g. Frances will appear as
Births Sep 1935
Jones Frances Brown Melton M. 7a 441
so either Mr Screaton married Miss Screaton for your Frances, or there is no Father on the birth certificate, so illegitimate.