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Dear NanaSue,
Kath is my mother-in-law so not an Overens by birth but one of the only 2 people with the surname (my husband being the last born Overens on the planet!).
Thanks for everyone's efforts.
Lucy

Dear Janice and Potty,
I will certainly investigate the shipwreck. Thanks.
Lucy

Are you a on Face Book
There is a Kath Overens you should contact

Thanks Potty, just read it and it sounds horrendous.

This site has details of the 1831 ship wreck:

http://www.anglesey-today.com/the-wreck-of-the-rothsay-castle.html

Dear Janice and Potty,
Fantastic research you guys! Don't know how you've managed to get so far back. I came to a halt at 1800.
Will try to spend some time on it this weekend but then it's back to work for me do little time for family trees!
Thanks so much!
Maybe there's a stash of Overens in Canada or Chicago yet to be unearthed. Can't understand why they are not on the Internet though if they are alive now. Believe me I've searched! More likely the name had changed but the bloodline lives on?!
It's a mystery to me.
Lucy

A John Overens dies in 1831 when the Rothesay Castle Steamer sinks off Puffin Island, N Wales

He is buried in Beaumaris Churchyard
John Overens age 22 of Oldham

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VDdKAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=%22John+Overens%22&source=bl&ots=KCazjuxukx&sig=HmrS5InWo-_XgqGGlTuwStDB1Y4&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22John%20Overens%22&f=false

Hi Lucy,

I strongly suspect that John and Richard are brothers. John's will would probably mention any children. Lancashire Records office seem to have wills. Try contacting them through this site:

http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DDX+156&pos=1

Dear Potty,
I am not actually sure where John and Jane fit in... I don't have enough info on them. They were married a mere few days after Matthias's parents Richard and Elisabeth (Betty Mellor) in November 1800, witnessed by John Mellor too. Could John and Richard have been brothers? If so, did Jane and John have any boy issue?
It's so tantalising!
Must go to bed soon though, been doing this all day!
Lucy

Dear Potty,
Thanks so much for your help.
I did know about Matthias' baptism - found it today with tips from users.
I did not know about Richard and Betty's marriage though - I think you may just have stretched my family tree a bit further back in time. I've been wondering where the Mellor connection came from.
Wonderful!
Best regards, Lucy

Dear Janice,
I've PMd you about the images for Harold.
I did know about Matthias's baptism.
I do not have any record of William J Overens although some other Overens have popped up in Canadian records: Robert and Elizabeth marrying off their daughter Sarah in 1860. Plus we seem to have a tenuous Illinois connection with Henry and Mary marrying off their son (there is some hope) Perry S Overens in 1880 but no issue that I've since found...
Unless Michael Overens who married Julia Drignaiti in Illinois in 1915 is any relation (and maybe they had boys too?? - the trail goes dead).
Never heard of Darlene Owens
[Darkos Overens] city, Fayette, Tennessee ...
Thanks so much for your time, effort and energy on this. People have been so kind - I don't know why I didn't use a chat forum earlier.
Best regards, Lucy

familysearch has an image of John and Jane's marriage entry, with their signatures.

On lan-opc, the marriage of John Overens and Jane Hey gives them both from Oldham.

Richard was a skinner by trade and John a fellmonger - a dealer in skins. John's will might have some good info.

Name: Perry S Overens
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Christian, Illinois
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1861

Father: Henry S Overens
Mother: Mary Lentz

Spouse: Bettie Peters
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: 1857

Spouse's Father: Abraham Peters
Spouse's Mother: Elisabeth Bowman

Groom's Name: John Brinan
Groom's Birth Date: 1839
Groom's Birthplace: Ireland
Groom's Age: 21

Bride's Name: Sarah Overens
Bride's Birth Date: 1841
Bride's Birthplace: Ireland
Bride's Age: 19

Marriage Date: 04 Aug 1860
Marriage Place: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Groom's Father's Name: John Brinan
Groom's Mother's Name: Ann
Bride's Father's Name: Robert Overens
Bride's Mother's Name: Elizabeth

Groom's Name: Barnard Overens

Bride's Name: Anna Cramersdahl

Marriage Date: 25 Apr 1675
Marriage Place: Kungsholmen, Stockholm, Sweden

familysearch also has this baptism:


John Overans
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:

19 Jul 1803
christening:

10 Sep 1803

MANCHESTER STREET WESLEYAN METHODIST,?OLDHAM,?LANCASHIRE,?ENGLAND
parents:

Richard Overans,? Bettey










John Overans
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth:

19 Jul 1803

christening:

10 Sep 1803

MANCHESTER STREET WESLEYAN METHODIST,?OLDHAM,?LANCASHIRE,?ENGLAND

parents:

Richard Overans,? Bettey

Groom: Michael Overens

Groom's Age: 26
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1889
Groom's Birth Date: 1889

Bride: Julia Drignaiti

Bride's Age: 21
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1894
Bride's Birth Date: 1894
Bride's Birthplace:
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1915
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Name: Richard Overens
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 23 Nov 1835
Burial Place: Cleckheaton, Birstal, York, England
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age: 74
Birth Date: 1761