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possible Marriage in India. Help Wanted.

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Nala

Nala Report 30 Aug 2012 08:33

Flip,

Your very kind Flip.

So much to follow on , Wow!

Nala. :-D

Flip

Flip Report 30 Aug 2012 07:46

You may want to take a look at this - James had a younger brother Joseph who was into family history! This is written by Joseph's grandson who has his notes!

http://rjtechne.org/century130703/family/familyov.htm

Turns out your Edmund Maurice (known as Maurice) had other siblings!

You'll also find the family on the 1911 census at 14 Dunamony, Derrygortrevy, Co Tyrone, Mary is a widow.

Nala

Nala Report 29 Aug 2012 17:27

Thank you once again to you both.

Worked till late last night putting it altogether after sorting out the order.

Great work. Nala


:-)

Flip

Flip Report 29 Aug 2012 13:23

From the following source:

Another little tit-bit of info.

Headstones: DUBLIN, St. Brigids, Stillorgan, Co. Dublin Nos. 1 - 125
Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives
http://www.ipg-web.com/IGPArchives
http://www.ipg-web.com/IGPArchives/copyright.htm
Contributed by Joyce Tunstead

Not Lost but Gone Before | In Loving Memory | of | our dear mother | EDITH ALMA
JOHNSTON | who passed on | 20th June 1956 | in her 81st year.

Flip

Flip Report 29 Aug 2012 07:55

Never checked A, you're right K it's here, but no more details other than these:

Name: James Johnston
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1874
Birth Place: Ireland
Father's Name: John Johnston
Mother's Name: Mary Geddes
FHL Film Number: 255914

K

K Report 28 Aug 2012 13:54

I think there is a birth on A...y

Flip

Flip Report 28 Aug 2012 13:22

That looks good for them in 1901 K - As expected James is not with the family as he would be in London by then!

There's only one birth on familysearch in Newry (the right reg district) 1874/5 - which should be James.

K

K Report 28 Aug 2012 12:59

Brilliant finds

It does sound like the right family. Maybe this also confirms it
http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/images/pages/13673/0000507.jpg

This could be them in 1901.

Residents of a house 11 in Toomog (Castlecaulfield, Tyrone)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Johnston John 66 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Married -
Johnston Mary 46 Female Wife Presbyterian Tyrone Farmers Wife Read and write - Married -
Johnston Samuel 20 Male Son Presbyterian Tyrone Medical Student Read and write - Not Married -
Johnston Henry 15 Male Son Presbyterian Tyrone Pupil Royal A.Dun Read and write - Not Married -
Johnston William 12 Male Son Presbyterian Tyrone Pupil Royal A.Dungan a Son Read and write - Not Married -
Johnston Joseph 10 Male Son Presbyterian Tyrone Pupil N. School Read and write - Not Married -
Johnston Anne E 3 Female Daughter Presbyterian Tyrone - Read - Not Married -
Loughran John 25 Male Servant Roman Catholic Tyrone Working on Farm Read and write - Not Married -
Fox Mary Anne 18 Female Servant Roman Catholic

Quoy

Quoy Report 28 Aug 2012 06:41

A newspaper advertisement from

The Leeds Mercury (Leeds, England), Saturday, October 18, 1845; Issue 5837

East Coast Railways
Solicitors Messars Johnston , Sturton and Kay, Holbeach

Flip

Flip Report 28 Aug 2012 06:07

http://rjtechne.org/century130703/1910s/cwujj/brothers.htm

I posted part of this article, but it does go on to say the eder brothers were in the ICS - now think it's highly likely it could be your James - even more interesting, he wrote a book in retirement.

Nala

Nala Report 27 Aug 2012 20:10

Thanks a million to everybody for all your hardwork.

now i have to sort all this out and i love doing that bit.

Nala

:-) :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Aug 2012 16:43

(Thankyou for Will posting folks, seems an interesting family)

Chris :)

K

K Report 27 Aug 2012 16:16

Sorry - eyesight going with age and varifocals!!!

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2012 16:07

But he stated father as John, so don't think 1891 correct, don't think he would get that wrong as he was obviously educated. But the 1901 may be a possibility!

K

K Report 27 Aug 2012 15:59

1891 - possibly the same James with father James a retired barrister - Edit - sorry wrong father

Name: James Johnston
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Johnston
Mother's Name: Fanny J Johnston
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke Newington, London, England

Civil parish: Stroud
Ecclesiastical parish: Stroud
Town: Stroud
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Stroud
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2024
Folio: 110
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
James Johnston 51
Fanny J Johnston 46
Daisy E Johnston 23
Nanny M Johnston 22
Janet Johnston 19
James Johnston 17
Marion A Turner 29
Ellen Rowden 30
Elizabeth A Johnston 24
Mary Swoalley 22
Sarah Ann Swoalley 18

K

K Report 27 Aug 2012 15:53

I wondered if he may have met Edith while she was a nurse in London

Edit - Probably not but this one is a solicitor

1901

Name: James Johnston
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Nk, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Gray's Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 140
Folio: 97
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
C Griffin 57
C E Hadges 25
H Bostock 21
Arthur H Bostock 24
Richard H Sanker 28
Thomas M Body 24
James Johnston 27

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2012 15:47

I wonder??

Civil War in Ulster

The Indian Civil Service background
JJ's elder brother James had spent from 1896 to 1901 in Oxford, John from 1901 to 1905 and William from 1907 to 1910. The family resources were able to support them one at a time in Oxford.

The Oxford record has it that 'James Johnston matriculated from Merton College on 1 February 1896. The first son of John Johnston, farmer of Tomagh, Castlecaulfield, he was born on 24 November 1874 in Donaghmore, County Tyrone, and was previously educated at the Royal Academical Institution, Belfast and Queen's College, Galway. He obtained second class honours in Classical Moderations in 1897 and passed groups A1 (Greek Philosophy and Greek or Latin History), B1 (English History and Literature, or Modern European History or Indian History with Political and Descriptive Geography) and B3 (the Elements of Political Economy) of the final Pass School in Michaelmas Term 1901. The degrees of BA and MA were conferred on him on 21 June 1906.'

Though maybe not, if the degrees were conferred in 1906, although the Indian history bit in in 1901 is interesting!

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2012 15:38

Lucky you, it's been pi**ing it down in the north west all day! Next time I hear of a hosepipe ban I'm going to scream!

K

K Report 27 Aug 2012 15:34

Did most of the garden yesterday and should really be packing to go away later this week but this is more interesting,

Most of the rain seems to have missed us

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2012 15:29

ICS was originally India civil service which became imperial civil service in 1886, so I think you're on to something K!

Well, it's a good way to spend a wet bank holiday! Can't believe we were intending to go to the races today - which have been abandoned!

Also, thinking about it, the children may have been at boarding school - it happened to a couple of my ftiend who were born abroad - left here for an education.