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Aah!...well would be good for you both if there was a link, a whole lot of William Stevens it seems...

Chris :)

Hi Chris,
Jayne and I thought we were related through William Stevens born 1841 (older brother of James and Richard)... but closer examination of the marriage certificate indicated this wasn't the same William who married Pheobe in 1852.

The James in the marriage you mention is (I think) my great (x2) great uncle.

County Norfolk
Place Terrington
Church St John
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 26 Dec 1852
GroomForename William
GroomSurname STEVENS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Single
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode of this Parish
BrideForename Phebe
BrideSurname NEVE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode of this Parish
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname STEVENS
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename Samuel
BrideFatherSurname NEVE
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Rebecca
WitnessOneSurname TROFER
WitnessTwoForename John Thomas
WitnessTwoSurname COX
Notes Groom of Full Age; Groom signed with his mark; Bride of Full Age; Bride signed with her mark; Married by Banns
FileNumber 3102

(the Marriage Jayne has, from below link, click on, and search for free!)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)


(Alan, who are you trying to get in contact with, have you been helping Jayne, or does the below Marriage connect somehow?)

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
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Stevens James Downham 4b 593
Whitmore Eliza Downham 4b 593

Hi Chris Ho;)
Thanks for your help - I did find William Stevens 1810 and his wife Sarah Unknown, as well as the other family members on the census, thank you!
I now have to find his father!

Hi Jan Smith, thanks for looking for me, I will send for a certificate to confirm, but I as there are so many Stevenses in Downham, it might be a big search!

Thanks to all of you folks for all of your help - I really do appreciate it!

Many thanks

Jayne :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Hi Chris Ho :)

James Stevens who married Elizabeth Whitmore in Q1 1874 ...
How do I get in contact to share my tree as I'm descended from his brother Richard William Stevens (born 1845) ...

Which unfortunately isn't the family Jayne is looking for, unless they are connected in a previous generation.

Jayne, have you considered the William you are looking for could be a younger brother or nephew of the Robert we already know about?

Hi,
Perhaps I can add some clarity to Jaynes request (as it was me who caused her confussion)...

Jaynes great, great grandfather William Stevens married Pheope Ann Neve on December 26 1852 in the parish of Terrington St John (she has the marriage certificate) residence at the time of marriage is given for both as St Johns.

The grooms father is named as William Stevens (labourer) ... it is this William she is trying to trace.

Thanks

1901
STEVENS, Thomas Head Married M 35 1866 Agricultural Labourer
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
STEVENS, Annie Wife Married F 33 1868
Heacham, Norfolk
STEVENS, John Son M 8 1893
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
STEVENS, Lilly Daughter F
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
STEVENS, Ethel Daughter F 3 1898
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
**STEVENS, Alfred Son M 1 1900**
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
Piece: 1558
Folio: 60
Page: 17
Registration District: Wisbech
Civil Parish: Clenchwarton (Norfolk)
Municipal Borough:
Address: Lynn Road, Clenchwarton (Norfolk), Clenchwarton
County: Cambridgeshire

1891
COUZENS, Matthew Head Married M 51 1840 Farm Labourer
South Creake, Norfolk
COUZENS, Phebe Wife Married F 52 1839
Norwich, Norfolk
COUZENS, Harriett Daughter Single F 20 1871 Dressmaker
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
STEVENS, Thomas Lodger Married M 25 1866 Farm Labourer
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
STEVENS, Annie Lodger Married F 22 1869
Heacham, Norfolk
Piece: 1307
Folio: 51
Page: 4
Registration District: Wisbech
Civil Parish: Clenchwarton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Lynn & Sutton Road, Clenchwarton
County: Cambridgeshire

1881
COZENS, Matthew Head Married M 43 1838 Ag Lab
South Creak, Norfolk
COZENS, Phoebe Wife Married F 45 1836
Norwich, Norfolk
STEVENS, Thomas Stepson Single M 15 1866 Ag Lab
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
COZENS, Harriet Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
Piece: 1698
Folio: 61
Page: 10
Registration District: Wisbech
Civil Parish: Clenchwarton (Norfolk)
Municipal Borough:
Address: Marsh, Clenchwarton (Norfolk)
County: Cambridgeshire

1871
COUSINS, Matthew Head M 36 1835 Norfolk
COUSINS, Pheby Wife F 37 1834 Norfolk
STEPHENS, Thomas Step-Son M 5 1866 Norfolk
COUSINS, Harriet Daughter F 0 1871 Norfolk
Piece: 1618
Folio: 65
Page: 2
Registration District: Wisbech
Civil Parish: Clenchwarton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Waterloo Cottage, Clenchwarton
County: Cambridgeshire


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Clenchwarton
Church St Margaret
RegisterNumber 138
DateOfBirth 19 Jan 1866
BaptismDate 11 Feb 1866
Forename Thomas
Sex -
FatherForename William
MotherForename Phoebe
FatherSurname STEVENS
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 7590


Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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COUZENS Matthew Wisbeach 3b 1353
STEVENS Phoebe Wisbeach 3b 1353


Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Stevens Alfred Thomas Wisbech 3b 598


(just adding above, found an older posting for Jayne, above 1899 Birth looks to be her Grandfather, have traced back, but need confirmation from Jayne, as to whether this is correct, so far)...

Chris :)
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(below was 'Thread', hoping Jayne doesn't mind, just trying to get the picture!)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1222131

Do you have a marriage cert. for William as this should give fathers name occupations etc

Hi Jayne, don't say you're not great at using websites, you're doing fine on here. BUT, it's just a simple case of answering the questions that people have asked.

FreeReg is free Jayne!, easy to use...

(I too use FMP (good for some Cambs. Parishes) and Ancestry, all are valuable)

Hope something helps for you, if not, give us another shot!...

Chris :)

Hi Chris,
I will go offline GR as I confess I'm not great at using websites, so, if it's ok with you, I will go with what I can do on FMP and hope that I might find something good!
If you ever find another Whitwell in another family, please let me know?
Kindest regards
Jayne

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(have a look Norfolk/Cambridgeshire on above link Jayne, something might connect!)


(also, posted above, others have asked some questions, do you have the answers that might make 'looking' a bit easier)...

Chris :)

Hi Chris Ho!
Fabulous! - thanks for this - there is a Whitwell Stevens aged 1 years b. 1840 Downham which I found - parents: William Stevens and Sarah Unknown. 1841 census : Downham Pymore Hill. Other siblings are: Ann Stevens 1834c, John Stevens 1836c and Eliza Stevens 1838c. And in 1851: Pymoor Downham - William 1810, Sarah 38, Ann 17, John 15, Eliza 13, Whitwell 11, Jonah 1843, Samuel 5 and Susan 2. 1861 Pymore Hill, Downham: William 52, Sarah 48, Samuel 15, Susan 12, Eleanor 10 and James 8.
Unfortunately, there is no William Stevens for this family. Could there possible be another Whitwell Stevens in another branch of this tree, do you think?
Many many thanks for your help.
Jayne

I am a descendant of James Stevens.
I have many details of the family.
Born: Tottenhill, Norfolk 21st Feb 1850
Father : Robert Stevens, born c.1810 St. Mary Magdelene, Norfolk
Mother : Elizabeth Ambrose, born c.1811 Welney, Norfolk
Children: 13 in total

(from google search, the above relates to Elizabeth Ambrose,taken from an old rootschat posting, not sure if connected in your 'Tree')


County Cambridgeshire
Place Downham
Church St Leonard
RegisterNumber 552
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 27 Nov 1842
Forename Whitwell
Sex -
FatherForename William
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname STEVENS
MotherSurname
Abode Downham
FatherOccupation Labourer
FileNumber 27376

(this above from below link, along with Caroline and Jonah, if names you recognise?, in case he was Whitwell instead of William!, just an idea)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

edits (Whitwell Married Harriet Leakes 1859)

You are not helping us to help you Jayne!!!

PLEASE do not tell us what you got wrong - PLEASE answer the questions if you want us to help!

I reitterate:

So - where have you got this name from ?

How have you got back to him ??

Who's father / son / brother / husband, or whatever else is he ???

You haven't just got a name ?? - It must have joined up to someone somewhere ???

We NEED this info if we are to try to help!

Dea x

Hi Dea,
I was so sure that the Robert Stevens and Elizabeth Ambrose's birth certificate for William was the correct one for some time - but it now transpires that the William Stevens I had on my tree was not of the family I thought it was. I looked for a William, and also a son of William in either Downham, Tottenhill or Wiggenhall but nothing came up that fitted.
Anything that you could find for a William, son of William born would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Jayne

So - where have you got this name from ?

How have you got back to him ??

Who's father / son / brother / husband, or whatever else is he ???

You haven't just got a name ?? - It must have joined up to someone somewhere ???

We NEED this info if we are to try to help!

Dea x

Sorry Jayne but in the absence of any answers to the questions asked or any further known information about your ancestor William I am unable to assist you.

Good luck with your quest.

Let's try again.

Where have you got William's name from ?
Is he someone's husband, brother, father, son etc ?

How do you know that you have an ancestor called William Stevens ?

Hi Jonesey,
Thanks for your reply - but as Tottenhill, Downham and Shouldham come under the district of Cambridgeshire, they are all classed as Downham for the registration district .
My problem is that I don't know who my ancestor is - Just William Stevens (there are lots of them!) is and would like to be able to find the right William , if this is possible.
Jayne