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Re the Page births at sea 1893 and 1895, the one in 1893 was female:


Overseas registration event: Birth


Name: PAGE, Female (unnamed)
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Vessel: Orari
Country: At sea
Year: 1893
Page: 9
Record source: GRO Marine Births Indices (1837 to 1965)

Registration event: birth


Name: PAGE
Date of birth: April 1895
Date reported: 1895
Father's name:
Mother's name:
Mother's maiden name:
Ship's name: Orari
Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box: 0011
Page:


No births listed in British India Office Births & Baptisms 1712-1965

None of the 43 Page births recorded in india in the 10 years either side of 1890 had a father named Henry.

Patchem

Sorry. I have no idea! I should say that I was evacuated for the period of the war and six months after that. I returned at 11 and left home to join the RAF at 15 so my time spent with my mother was very limited.

Gary

MarieCeleste

My apologies I missed out the answer in my last posting. No I have no knowledge of her having any brothers or sisters. The only thing I know about my Grandfather, Henry Page is that he was shown as being an Electrical Engineer when Georgina married her first husband on the 28 May 1919 and as an Interpreter when Georgina married my father on the 2nd June 1928.

Gary

Why do you think she used Winifred Lilian when she entered hospital?

Thanks

Sorry Gary, yes I've re-read what you post and see what you mean.

OK, so back to my earlier question - did your mum have any brothers and sisters that you know of?

Do you know anything else about her father?

MarieCeleste

Many thanks. I am beginning to think that I should examine the India records to try to track down my grandfather HENRY PAGE. The Henry J Page I referred to was not my grandfather. he was the father of Lilian Emily Page who some people have mistaken for Georgina Lilian Page. I used Henry J Page's will to show that Lilian Emily and Georgina Lilian were not one and the same person.

Gary

patchem

Many thanks this opens up a whole new area to examine.

Gary

The National Archives link refers you to the indices on FindMyPast so I checked them out.

There are "At Sea" births which cover 1854 to 1887 so they're too old.

The Maritime Births covers 1867 to 1960 - there are 2 Page births in 1893 and one in 1895, no gender or first names stated.

You say your grandfather Henry J Page was still alive in 1951 - have you thoroughly researched him? If not can you give us his birth and death years?

Gary - did your mother have any siblings that you are aware of?

Google search gives:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/bmdatseaorabroad.htm

AnnCardiff

Many thanks. I think this will be too early, but I will check.

gary

Name: Lilian Page
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Mar 1898
Christening Place: All Saints, Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1885
Father's Name: Henry Page
Mother's Name: Annie Page
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01889-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1278894
Reference ID: item 15 p 114

AnnCardiff

Many thanks. I think this will be too early, but I will check.

gary

Lilian Georgina Page, "England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index, 1837-1920"
Name: Lilian Georgina Page
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1905
Registration District: Woolwich
County: London
Event Place: Woolwich, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 1D
Page: 2119
Line Number: 233


Lilian Georgina Page probably married one of the following people

Name: Albert Henry Edwards
Name: Thomas Henry Kirton

Name: Lilian Georgina Page
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1899
Registration District: Lambeth
County: London
Event Place: Lambeth, London, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 1D
Page: 326
Line Number: 335

Thank you for your helpful suggestions.

Unfortunately, Lilian Georgina born Mar 1899 Lambeth is not her, neither is Lilian Emily . Lilian Emily married someone called Gent and she was still alive under this name in 1951 when her father, Henry J Page wrote his will.

Georgina Lilian died 5 May 1958 in Southend under the names Winifred Lillian Mitchell. She had given the hospital these names on admittance. I visited her in hospital and registered her death. So I know it was my mother. I have all the certificates for the birth of her nine children from her two marriges and also details from London Polling registers, all of which show her as Georgina Lilian.

Any ideas where I can look up maritime births?

Gary

Name: Page
Gender: Female
Christening Place: England
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1878
Birthplace: Merchant Marine, at Sea, Great Britain
Mother's Name: Rachael Page
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01403-7
System Origin: Great Britain-EASy and VR
GS Film number: 1419470
Reference ID: 2453, 111

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It does look more like Lilian E than Lilian G on the image unfortunately:


Census 1901:

Address: 44, Medina Road, Islington County: London

PAGE, Henry J Head Married M 33 1868 Electrical Engineer
St Pancras, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PAGE, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 33 1868 St Pancras, London
PAGE, Alice M Daughter Single F 9 1892 St Mary Islington, London
PAGE, Mabel E Daughter Single F 7 1894 St Mary Islington, London
PAGE, Dorothy A Daughter F 5 1896 St Mary Islington, London
PAGE, Lilian E Daughter F 3 1898 St Mary Islington, London<<<


EDIT: Scrub that - she's Lilian Emily:

!911

Address: 44 Medina Road County: London

PAGE, Henry John Head Married M 43 1868 Instrument Maker Telegraphs P O Kentish Town London
PAGE, Elizabeth Alice Wife Married 21 years F 43 1868 Camden Town London
PAGE, Alice Maud Daughter Single F 19 1892 Mantle Maker Islington London
PAGE, Mabel Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1894 Milliner Islington London
PAGE, Dorothy Ada Daughter Single F 15 1896 Dressmaker Islington London
PAGE, Lilian Emily Daughter F 13 1898 School Islington London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PAGE, Phyllis Marjorie Daughter F 1 (18 MONTHS) 1910 Islington London
MITCHELL, Hannah Mother In Law Widow F 70 1841 North Mimms Hatfield

From Freebmd's

she appears to have switched her forenames around for the marriage


Births Mar 1899
Page Lilian Georgina Lambeth 1d 326

Roy

Their is a birth for her in 1899 Lambeth on findmypast

Roy