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From http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1340979?page=2

"Hi there, just wandering if you could help me find Leonard James Francis McGrath, which I believe to be my real grandfather. He married a gwenneth laws and had two children to that marriage. Thank you jo"

Jo - did you ever get your mother's full birth certificate to check the father's name? If so, what did it say re: her father? If not, well I think that's the next step.

The Leonard that I posted was a Clerk after the war but that's not to say he didn't serve in the Navy during the war but I very much doubt he would have been an Admiral. Could Admiral have been a bit of glorifying of his position? If you could access the death notice in The Sydney Herald in May give more information about his life. Failing that his death certificate would give details of his children?


EDIT

I don't see a death for his wife but I suppose she could have remarried after he died.

Hi marieceleste, I'm so sorry I read your message wrong.
I'm hoping to get the immigration papers in the next couple of weeks I thought it said the death certificate.

How did you go rootgatherer? Was the one that was married a admiral in the navy?

Thank you so much rootgatherer now it's all fitting together :)

Hi Marie not at moment looking to find my mums real dad.
As she found some news out today.
Yes I will deffently get the certificates this week :)

Jo, you're asking who James Bylos/Demetrius parents were - did you follow up on the immigration papers I advised?

His marriage certificate in 1944 should name his parents also.

Sorry have to go out now. Will look back later.

Name: Gweneth May McGrath
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
State: New South Wales
District: Lowe
Subdistrict: Strathfield

With Leonard James, clerk

Name: Gweneth May McGrath
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Lyne
Subdistrict: Wingham


Also there Leonard James Francis McGrath C.P.S. (sorry don't know what that means, it's where others have occupation listed)

No that would be him thank you so much I know he was married but did they have children?

Another possible

newspaper Record for Leonard Gerrard MCGRATH

Name: MCGRATH, Leonard Gerrard
Location of Event: late of Chatswood, formerly of Willoughby,
Date: 08 MAY 1987
Subtype of Record: death notice
Newspaper: Sydney Morning Herald
Notes: pub. 09 MAY 1987

Bit of a long shot but there is this death in NSW?

newspaper Record for Leonard James Francis MCGRATH

Name: MCGRATH, Leonard James Francis
Location of Event: at Strathfield,
Date: 11 JUN 1989
Subtype of Record: death notice
Age: 78
Newspaper: Sydney Morning Herald
Notes: pub. 12 JUN 1989.



EDIT

Ypu could probably eliminate the above as here is his marriage

Name: Leonard James Francis Mcgrath
Spouse Name: Gweneth Hay Laws
Marriage Date: 1940
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Burrowa, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Number: 28172

And probably his birth

Name: Leonard J Mcgrath
Birth Date: 1910
Father's Name: William Mcgrath
Mother's name: Fanny
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Place: Mudgee, New South Wales
Registration Number: 29102

Now Ursula's daughter Eilleen she was married in 1944. She had children but im not clear who they are from there was demetrios hlentzos (james bylos) her violent husband,and there was her lover. Her two children Lenny bylos and Jennifer bylos (my mum) she has just found out (today) that my grandmother was Inlove with another man he was an admiral in the navy his last name is McGrath that is the same man that is on Lennys birth certificate.
I believe Lenny died in Victoria a few years ago but I can't find him on births deaths and marriages Victoria Or nsw

I know this is asking a little to much but can anyone tell me who James bylos or demetrios hlentzos parents where?

Thank you so much everyone. I found a relation that lives in california that comes from greece.
I am so greatful that there are so many fantastic people on here that help.
You are so amazing xx

Jo, there's no guarantee that Anastassios was his brother, it may have been a cousin.

I posted the links above for the naturalisation records but unfortunately the search results time out after a few hours so you'll need to do the search yourself. The records are on National Archives of Australia.

Here's the link to do a name search:
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/NameSearchForm.aspx

Put Hlentzos in the Family Name box and select "Immigration and Naturalisation records" from the drop down menu next to Category of Records and then press the Search button. There should then be a box saying there are 6 records found - click on "Display" and then you'll see them.

When you select the record for Hlentzos, Demetrios then there should be a link on the top right of the record that says "Request Copy" - follow that process.

Of course, you may want to try some searches under other categories to see what else comes up.

I think it said his brother on the artical on fate determined by a toss of a penny.
Well I didn't have any luck with finding anyone that's related this morning, by calling everyone listed.
Where do I get the paper work on naturalisation?
Once again you have all been a great help
Thank you again jo

Bottom right corner of page, see Zoom...(slide along to enlarge)

(not sure yet if Anastassios is related, perhaps keep for reference)

Chris :)

May I ask which name did you put in and chris ho I couldn't read the artical the writing was a bit small but who died? Was it my great grandparents or someone else?