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Samuel Bailey, born Lancashire 18/2/1886. Pls help

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Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 23:34

Thanks Susan, I will go and order the certificate

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 12:32



I use Ancestry but the Birth is from the BDM of WA

www.dotag.wa.gov.au

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 12:17

Thanks Jacqueline - also wonderful :-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Oct 2014 12:05

The travel info I posted is from the same source as the record I sent you........the transcription on FMP of actual shipping records

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 11:42

Thanks Sue,

Well, looks like that will be his birth date. Can I ask where you found it? As I would be interested in purchasing the certificate

You are wonderful :-)

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 11:28

Sandy ..that is the only birth in Perth WA for a Sidney E Bailey

I cannot see a travel for him going back to UK....Yet.

I have to go and get dinner or the OH will divorce me.

be back later :-)

Sue

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 11:15

I believe that the travel info would be correct, and now has me wondering why he would go back home and then come back to Australia?

Any clues as to where the travel info comes from?

And could it be that we are looking for a death in NSW?

Susan, the birth info for BAILEY SIDNEY E Male - at a glance looks to be correct, just not the dates, but maybe we have them wrong, or Sidney didn't know for sure?

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 11:02

Is this the one you want Jacqualine..

K, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Samuel Bailey
Name: Samuel Bailey
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Birth Date: abt 1886
Departure Date: 11 Mar 1926
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Benalla
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Benalla' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 135322
Master: Captain J S Sheepwash

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Oct 2014 10:55

I wonder if Samuel returned to England, then went back to Australia


Same occupation as 1910


First name(s) SAMUEL
Last name BAILEY
Gender Male
Age 40
Birth year 1886
Occupation FARMER
Departure year 1926
Departure day 9
Departure month 3
Departure port LONDON
Destination port SYDNEY
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name BENALLA
Ship official number 135322
Ship master's first name J S
Ship master's last name SHEEPWASH
Ship master's title CAPTAIN
Shipping line P. & O. AUSTRALIA VIA THE CAPE SERVICE
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet 21269
Ship registered tonnage 6988
Number of passengers 799
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

UK address c/o H Hall & Son, Uttoxeter.

Intending to reside permanently in Australia

Departure date in conjunction with age would fit a February birth

Perhaps someone would kindly check the incoming records on Ancestry, to which I do not have access.

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 10:54


Just found this but it is for 1912 any help to you

BAILEY SIDNEY E Male PERTH 93 1912



Edit

Great find Jaqualine,getting square eyes for looking :-D

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Oct 2014 10:50

Having previously said there was no record of his travel, I've now found

First name(s) SAML
Last name BAILEY
Gender Male
Marital status M
Occupation FARMER
Departure year 1910
Departure day 5
Departure month 8
Departure port LONDON
Destination port FREMANTLE
Destination FREMANTLE
State Western Australia
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name OSTERLEY
Ship official number 128287
Ship master's first name W J
Ship master's last name JENKS
Shipping line ORIENT
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet 14082
Ship registered tonnage 6781
Number of passengers 911
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
State First name(s) Last name Title
Western Australia - BAILEY MRS

I will attempt to send the image to you via GR.

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 10:37

Thank you, thank you, thank you

:-)

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 10:35



I will sandy ,I cannot find a Death Reg for him in Perth but there are a lot of cemetaries in Western Australia ,I am also looking at the Electoral rolls but nothing so far. :-)

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 10:27

Susan, thank you, yes I think it is very strange too. And now that I know Samuel was in Wa ( I am in QLD) I can look further as well. He may well of remarried, who knows??

But I am super happy now that I know where my grandfather (Sid) was born. I was told recently by my Aunt that Sid travelled to WA looking for his roots, but a family member asked why? when he was born in NSW? so, as you can see it is a little muddled, but thanks to Chris I have a launch pad.
I would be so grateful if you looked further into this from WA as well.
Thank you again
:-D

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 10:23

Thanks Chris

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2014 10:19

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324

(might be worth Cherilyn having a look round, could be more!)

Chris :)

edits (apologies Susan, didn't know you was a local, lol, hope something turns up!)

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 10:18



You are very welcome Sandy but Chris found the entry in the Trove newspaper,I find it strange that I can't find a passage for them over to OZ and there is not Birth reg for Sidney .
I live in WA Sandy so will keep looking. :-)

Do you know if samuel had a middle name .?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Oct 2014 10:13

best if you have just one thread for this family Sandy otherwise research tends to get repeated :-)

Sandy

Sandy Report 2 Oct 2014 10:09

I have shivers down my spine, how do I thank you - Chris, and Susan, and for all that posted and tried to help. A huge thank you!!

I know this does not solve the mystery, but it is a huge break through. You have no idea how happy this makes me.

:-D :-D :-D

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2014 09:56

Great find Chris

Will post this on thread for refs for us

granted.
Samuel Bailey, who petitioned for a dis
solution of his marriage with Nina Louise
Bailey, said they were married in Man
chester, England, in 1907, and came to
Western Australia in 1910. They went to
Broomehill, where petitioner took a con
tract for clearing with two brothers who
were farmers, and respondent took a posi
tion as housekeeper. When the contract
was completed in about ten mon'ths peti
uoner decided to go elsewhere, but respon
dent declined to go away, giving no rea
son. Petitioner went to Avondale andFix this text
wrote to his wife repeatedly, but she did
not reply. At a later dete he learnt she
was pregnant and he saw her at da private
hospital in Perth, where she had a son. of
whom he was not the father.. A rec6ncilia
tion was agreed to, hbut just before leaving
the hospital respondent renounced it and
returned to Broomehill. Since then she
had '!ed a second child, but he did not know
who was the father.
His Honour granted a decree nisi, re
turnable in six months.