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I know that my Gt Aunt Ada in 1901 was living with her Aunt and Uncle Elizabeth and Charles Egerton ? in Northwich, both her Parents Joseph and Mary Ann leather were dead, i have been informed that there is a record of a Ada Leather marrying a Man called Stevens in June 1912, in Northwich and i wonder if this is my Ada, Could any one help me please ?

Hi Alan

When and where was Ada Born?

For info....

1901 England Census
about Ada Leather Name:Ada Leather
Age:16
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1885
Relation to Head:Niece
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Openshaw, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Northwich
Ecclesiastical parish:Witton St Helen
County/Island:Cheshire
Country:England



Household Members:

Charles Egerton 72
Elizabeth Egerton 53
Philip Egerton 19
Ellen Egerton 17
Arthur Egerton 13
Ada Leather 16

Someone on Ancestry has that marriage to Charles Stevens in 1912 but states her parents are John Leather and Ellen Vose. I don't see a certificate so can't confirm this.

Have you found Ada on the 1911 census?

Is this your Ada on the 1891 census??

1891 England Census
about Ada Leather Name:Ada Leather
Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1885
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Joseph Leather
Mother's name:Mary A Leather
Gender:Female
Where born:Manchester
Civil Parish:Newton
Ecclesiastical parish:Newton St Mark
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England



Household Members:

Joseph Leather 48
Mary A Leather 42
Helena Leather 14
Joseph Leather 4
Ada Leather 6
John Leather 5
Elizabeth Leather 2

There's only one Stevens birth with mother's maiden name Leather on FreeBMD and that's in 1913, Runcorn.

The only way you will find out if it is your Ada is by buying the marriage cert:

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Leather Ada Stevens Northwich 8a 539
Stevens Charles Leather Northwich 8a 539

Hi Prickley Holly, yes you have the right Ada Leather, she was half sister to my Granddad James Leather who was born in 1870 to Josephs Leathers first wife Catherine Smith, you have also provided me with info that i did not know, i did not realise that they had a daughter named Helena. My Great Grandad Joseph hung himself in Crumpsall union Hospital after the death of his 2nd wife Mary Ann at a young age, he had lost his first wife ( my Gt Grandmother ) when she was only 27, The two youngest children John and Elizabeth were put in the Workhouse but for some reason the Egerton family took Ada in, i do not know what happened to the two youngest, i.e. where they went from the Workhouse. and i was trying to find out more about Ada. Thank you so much for your help.

Thank you for your assistance, Margee, Potty and Gritty, your info does not appear to be my Ada. Regards

No Prickly Holly, i have not found her on 1911 census. regards

Looks like Elizabeth Egerton was Ada's paternal aunt?

Name: Charles Egerton
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Northwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 267

Records on Page:
Name
Charles Egerton <<<<<<<
Elizabeth Leather <<<<<<<<
Fanny Moore
John Ridgway

1871

Name: Joseph Leather
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Leather
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Witton
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northwich
Sub-registration district: Northwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 171
Piece: 3697
Folio: 101
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Leather 28
Catherine Leather 27
James Leather 12 Months

On the image of the 1891 census, son Joseph is actually aged 11

This is the same family in 1881. Note that Helena is Eleanor on this one.

Name: Joseph Leather
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary A. Leather
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bradford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 285 Ashton Old Rd (Sunny Bank Ter)
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Green Grocer
Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4015
Folio: 95
Page Number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Leather 36
Mary A. Leather 33
James Leather 11
Eleanor Leather 4
Joseph Leather 2

That is wonderful info rootgatherer, another first. So my Great Granddad had a sister Elizabeth that i also did not know about, Thank you so much.

Pleasure Alan :-)

Think this may be Joseph and Elizabeth with their parents in 1851. Do you have a name and occupation for Joseph's Dad from one of his marriage certificates please?

1851

Name: Joseph Leather
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Leather
Mother's name: Mary Leather
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barton upon Irwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 2218
Folio: 97
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Leather 30 b. Liverpool, occ. Smith
Mary Leather 32
Elizabeth A Leather 9
Isabella Leather 7
Joseph Leather 5
Jane Leather 2
William Leather 1

Hi rootsgatherer, yes i have noticed the two spellings, Helena / Eleanor and do not know which is correct. The most recent Joseph leather that you have put on is not my Gt Granddad, my Joseph was born in Northwich on 4th May 1842 and his Parents were James Leather born 1812 in Northwich and Elizabeth Leather nee Beech born in 1816, they married on 29th May 1833 at Witton in Northwich. I have not been able to get any further back than them.

Maybe 1911?? 2nd Opinions welcome


1911 England Census about Ada Teather


Name:Ada Teather
Age in 1911:26
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1885
Relation to Head:Inmate
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Ditton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Wigan
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:School Teacher
Registration district:Wigan
Registration District Number:458
Sub-registration district:Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel:43-46
Piece:23015


List of names removed

Andy

Hi Andy, my Gt aunt was Ada Leather not Teather, the dates are about right, but she was Born in Openshaw Manchester and not Ditton near Wigan, so feel sure that this is not her, Thank you anyway.