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British India BMD Records

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Gritty

Gritty Report 31 Dec 2014 10:09

If this burial record on Ancestry is the correct Jennet, then the family must hav stayed in India for some years

Name: Jennett Coles
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 13
Birth Date: 1912
Death Date: 2 Sep 1925
Burial Date: 3 Sep 1925
Burial Place: Bombay, Bombay, India
Father: William Henry Coles
FHL Film Number: 528107

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Dec 2014 16:38

Apologies if these births have already been posted, hard to keep track now we're on page 3.


Name: Evelyn Clifford Coles
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Jul 1903
Christening Place: Parel, Bombay, India
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1903
Father's Name: William Henry Coles
Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-0 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 462969

EDit: says female on baptism register.

Name: Lily Elsie Coles
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Feb 1906
Christening Place: Byculla, Bombay, India
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1906
Father's Name: William Henry Coles
Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-3 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 462972

died as infant:

Name: Lilly Elsie Coles
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 18 Jun 1912
Burial Place: Sewri, Bombay, India
Death Date: 18 Jun 1912
Age: 6
Birth Date: 1906
Father's Name: William Henry Coles
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00264-3 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 523897

Name: Florence Irene Lucy Coles
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Nov 1909
Christening Place: Bombay, Bombay, India
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1909
Father's Name: William Henry Coles
Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-9 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 523892


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Dec 2014 16:44

Also:

First name(s) Edith Marguerite
Last name Coles
Baptism year 1908
Birth year 1908
Place Parel,St Mary the Virgin
Presidency -
Mother's first name(s) Evelyn Catherine
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Father's last name Coles
Baptism date 5 Apr 1908
Birth date 09 Mar 1908
Archive reference -
Folio 209
Page -
Catalogue descriptions -
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
brightsolid online publishing ltd.

I think you've had this one - Jennet?

First name(s) Jennie Lavinia Thelma
Last name Coles
Baptism year 1912
Birth year 1912
Place Parel,St Mary the Virgin
Presidency Bombay
Mother's first name(s) Evelyn Catherine
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Father's last name Coles
Baptism date 9 Mar 1912
Birth date 11 Feb 1912
Archive reference N-3-107
Folio 31
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Jan 2015 14:55

Looks like Emma Edith had 2 ceremonies.


British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription


At St Mary of Bethany Church, Quetta married by banns.

First name(s) Emma Edith
Last name Weller
Marriage year 1922
Marriage date 26 Dec 1922
Spouse's first name James
Spouse's last name Burgan, Staff Sergt RASC
Place Quetta
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 25
Bride's age 20
Groom's father's first name James
Groom's father's last name Burgan (deceased)
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-465
Folio number 167

Witnesses were Leonard Ella and Maurice Sage. Harold Spooner was the Senior Chaplain who performed the ceremony.


and



British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription


Married by license at Karachi, ?, Archdiocese of Bombay. RC

First name(s) Emma Edith
Last name Weller
Marriage year 1923
Marriage date 23 Jun 1923
Spouse's first name James
Spouse's last name Burgan RAI? Corps
Place Bombay
Presidency Bombay
Groom's age 25
Bride's age 20
Groom's father's first name Alice B
Groom's father's last name James
Bride's father's first name Mary W
Bride's father's last name Will
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948, :
Archive reference N-3-129
Folio number 206
Entry number 3

Witnesses were Maude Kayat? and Daisy Crane. Rev JJ Meyer performed the ceremony.

Inez

Inez Report 1 Jan 2015 17:35

How strange to have a 2nd ceremony 6 months later! Is there any record of any children being born in India or had they moved to the UK by then?
Thank you for all this information. I too have to keep going back and checking all the posts again.
I think now that one William Thomas Weller is the wrong one, but not sure if I have the birth of the right one! I had never thought that Weller was a common name until I started looking and to have several of the same name and age is very muddling.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jan 2015 18:18

No miaden name for mother given, nor forenames for either parent.

However same location as that second marriage ceremony......and note the child's forenames.

First name(s) Emma Edith
Last name Burgan
Baptism year 1923
Birth year 1923
Place Karachi
Presidency Bombay
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name Burgan
Baptism date 1923
Birth date 1923
Archive reference N-3-129
Folio 112
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

This child also baptised same year and location, again, no maiden name for mother so purely speculative.

First name(s) James George
Last name Burgan
Baptism year 1923
Birth year 1923
Place Karachi
Presidency Bombay
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name Burgan
Baptism date 1923
Birth date 1923
Archive reference N-3-129
Folio 112
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

EDIT: Scrap the baptism, she was born 1902!!!!

Name: Emma Edith Burgan
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 Jun 1923
Christening Place: Karachi, Bombay, India
Birth Date: 18 Sep 1902
Father's Name: John Burgan
Mother's Name: Jane

Inez

Inez Report 1 Jan 2015 19:45

Wondering if that baptism was Emma Edith Weller as was, as she was born c1902/3. Think we only found baptism records for the 1st 4 of the family & she was no. 7. Her family were RC but we don't know what this baptism was do we? Would she have had to be baptised/rebaptised CofE if that's where wedding was?

Inez

Inez Report 1 Jan 2015 20:22

I have now found the birth of 6 more sons in England from 1926-36. Don't know if there are any more in India or any daughters.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Jan 2015 21:26

The Church of England will marry anyone who professes to be a Christian. They do not have to be baptised in any denomination.
..........

http://www.stmarysmumbai.com/ourChurch.html
St Mary the Virgin, Parel is CoE

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jan 2015 21:47

The baptism is the exact same date as the second marriage ceremony -23rd June 1923, so I suspect you are right and it is Emma Edith Weller as was.

Still the possibility that the James George Burgan also baptised 1923 might be her child.

EDIT: on the baptism transcription, Emma Edith's parents are recorded as John and Jane Burgan, though.