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Edith Errington née Matheson - Update 02/11/2015

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Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Apr 2015 21:43

How nice of them to give you a copy of the photo.
Good looking chap what a waste.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Apr 2015 00:15

That's looking increasingly possible Jude.

Given that we're a volunteer project there's no funding for certificates, etc. but I might just have to dig into my pocket for that death certificate.

Catherine, he does look a decent chap and, according to the parish newsletters of the time, he was a good man. Perhaps there was a reason why the marriage wasn't meant to be? It was a waste of every single life that was lost - that's why we're trying to pay tribute to our local men.

Thanks to everyone.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Apr 2015 08:21

(below might relate also, if you wanted to add to project!, nothing Edith wise to help further though, sorry!)

Chris :)

08 March 1915 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland

King’s Colour (the Union Jack), and Captain J. Errington the regimental colour, these two officers being present ...


28 July 1914 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland

7th Durham, Lieut.-Colonel K. Yaux, A’.D., D.S.O. (commanding). Major J. 13. Bow’ man, Capt. K. B. Bergne (Adjutant), Capt. H. L. Hoslop (Alcdical Officer). Capts, C. W. Hines, I. M. Warn. W. Priestly, A. F. Farrow, J. Errington, Licpts. M ...”


(if him above, then Errington and Warn names in below article, over next page)

01 May 1915 - Newcastle Journal - Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Tyne and

PRAISE FOR THE DURHAMS.
A SHIELDS OFFICER'S EXCITING ADVENTURES. A South Shields officer, connected the 7th Durham Light Infantry, writing home says: "Since Sunday I have had the time of my life, slept in a field on Sunday night after attempting attack, and (Monday)


edits (F M Wawn, with J Errington below)

http://www.mocavo.co.uk/Harts-Annual-Army-List-Special-Reserve-List-and-Territorial-Force-List-for-1912-Volume-Lxxiii/943522/516


(is there a Medal Card for James/ Ancestry?, can see NA one, Wawn one has address with wife, can see James on All UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, index, not other, just wondered, lol)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Apr 2015 10:41

Thanks so much for the articles Chris, and the Hart's list - I'll add those to the database.

We do have James' medal card, his medals went to his sister Isabella. The link to the Ancestry record is here http://goo.gl/J4nMnM

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Apr 2015 11:01

Have you ruled out this Edith please?

1891

Edith Matheson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Tom Matheson
Mother's name: Ether Matheson
Gender: Female
Where born: Stockton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bede
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4148
Folio: 63
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom Matheson 29 Iron Moulder
Ether Matheson 28
Edith Matheson 7
John Matheson 2
Fred Matheson

Dea

Dea Report 23 Apr 2015 12:03

This appears to be one of the witnesses at Edith's wedding:


1901:
Name: Mark Bergman
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Member Of Crew (Institutional)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hendon, Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Bay Gibraltar
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Stoker RN

Condition as to marriage: single

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Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad
Sub-registration district: RN Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Prince George
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5330
Folio: 84
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 1



The Jewish angle could well be worth following as both his parents were Russian Subjects:

Name: Mark Bergman
Record Type: Certificate of Naturalisation - image available on Ancestry

Relation to Head: Head
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Place: Wearnoszow, kalish Gubernia
Event Date: 10 Jan 1905
Event Country Region: United Kingdom
Residence Year: 1905
Residence Place: Heaton, Newcastle on Tyne
Father Name: Hirsch Bergnman
Mother Name: Toba Bergman

Dea x


safc

safc Report 23 Apr 2015 12:05

????


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2 Mowbray Road Sunderland, Sunderland, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Margaret Errington Head Widow Female 61 1850 Hedleden Durham Shopkeeper- Fruiterer
Transcription
Mary Errington Daughter Single Female 34 1877 Easongton Durham Assisting In Business
Transcription
Edith Margaret Errington Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Easington Durham Council School Teacher
Transcription
Charles Alfred Errington Son Single Male 28 1883 Easington Durham Shipbuilders Clerk
Transcription
Walter Errington Adopted Son Single Male 7 1904 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland -

safc

safc Report 23 Apr 2015 12:08

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
Errington Walter Newcastle T. 10b 56

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Apr 2015 12:22

Edita Mathinson
Birth Year: abt 1884
Marriage or Bann Date: 4 Sep 1935
Parish: Kirkheaton, St John the Baptist
Father's name: Tom Mathinson, <<<<<COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER
Spouse's Name: John Richard Broadbert
Spouse's Father's Name: Lewis Broadbent


Edith is a 51 year old Spinster of 89 Dalingreen(?) Lane. One of the witnesses was Laura Mallinson (maybe Mathinson?)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Apr 2015 12:26

Sorry, should have said image is on Ancestry if someone else wants to have a look at it. :-)

Dea

Dea Report 23 Apr 2015 12:40

That looks good rootgatherer - I will go and take a look.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 23 Apr 2015 13:02

I have a feeling that marriage is for this Edith:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Highro Yard Square, Dalton, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Mallinson Head Widow Female 40 1861 - Yorkshire, England
Laura Mallinson Daughter Single Female 28 1873 Tailoress Finisher Yorkshire, England
Edith Mallinson Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Tailoress Machine Yorkshire, England
Hellen Mallinson Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Tailoress Machine Yorkshire, England
E W W Mallinson Son Single Male 9 1892

She has a sister Laura who could well be the witness and the marriage cert certainly looks to be MALLINSON to me. :-(

Dea x

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Apr 2015 13:04

Edith said she was 23 when she married in 1908, and did not give a second forename

Her father, Thomas, was said to be a Commercial Traveller

If her husband abandoned her, she may well have reverted to her maiden name

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Apr 2015 13:05

The 1935 ancestry image looks like an "original" - the M's are all different. If that's correct then it looks to me as though Edith signed as Mallinson and so did Laura.

The 1908 certificate looks as though it has all been completed in one hand, all as Matheson. Would it be worth looking at the original of that to see if there was a mistake and perhaps to compare Edith's signatures (although 27 is years have passed.)

Very co-incidental that the Father is Tom and he is/was a Commercial Traveller on both.

By comparing the original signatures of my great aunt's husband's bigamous 2nd marriage, I am sure he was one and the same person, despite having moved a couple of counties over and adding an R (Bicker/Bricker) to his name, which had disappeared by the 1911 census - when great aunt thought he was in Canada, as the story went!

Edit - have just seen Dea's 1901 census find for ?the Edith Mallinson of 1935

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Apr 2015 13:10

Was a bit of a long shot. I think the Laura probably proves that it is the wrong Edith although there is a Tom and Esther who have a daughter Edith born 1884.

Back to the drawing board :-(

Dea

Dea Report 23 Apr 2015 13:16

Yep - It is the correct family for that marriage:

Name: Edith Mallinson
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1884
Parish: Moldgreen, Christ Church
Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1884
Father's name: Tom Mallinson - Clerk
Mother's name: Mary Mallinson
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Charles William Mallinson................................ E W W on above census !
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1893
Parish: Moldgreen, Christ Church
Baptism Date: 12 Mar 1893
Father's name: Tom Mallinson - Commercial Traveller ( as on 'that' Edith's 1935 marriage cert)
Mother's name: Mary Mallinson


Dea x :-(

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Apr 2015 13:21

Laura in 1901 could not be Mary's daughter, unless one of their ages is wrong

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Apr 2015 13:25

It seems increasingly likely that the info on the 1908 marriage is inaccurate, and that the surname has been mis-heard, or perhaps even deliberately given incorrectly.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Apr 2015 13:26

First name(s) Edith
Last name Mallinson
Gender Female
Birth year 1884
Birth place Mold-Green, York, England
Baptism year -
Residence York, England
Place -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Tom
Father's last name Mallinson
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Mallinson

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Apr 2015 13:46

Hello all, thank you.

Rootgatherer - I think that the Edith in 1891 is a strong contender, I posted that census on the first page. Although the father's occupation as per the census doesn't fit, it could have changed .......

Jacqueline - I'm not sure why, but I think if there was any abandoning done then it was by Edith and not by James. Just my gut reaction. I know he lied about his marital status on the 1911 census but he may have had reason to think the marriage was over and done with (although obviously not) or was just in denial. He was well known locally and Edith could have easily found him - they married in Tynemouth so she would have some acquaintance with the area.