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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jun 2015 15:34

Another Brother for Annie Elizabeth......

Alfred Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:Alfred Mellon
Abode: Everton
Birth Date:12 Oct 1859 >>>>>>> 1869 on the image
Baptism Date:25 Jul 1870
Parish:Liverpool, St Peter
Father's name:John Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward)
Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon



Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
Mellon Alfred W. Derby 8b 387

And a Sister...

Agnes Ann Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:Agnes Ann Mellon
Abode: Everton
Birth Date:25 Jan 1865
Baptism Date:30 Nov 1865
Parish:Liverpool, St Peter
Father's name:John Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward)
Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon


Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
Mellon Agnes Ann W. Derby 8b 365



I can't seem to find Annie, Alfred, Agnes and the parents on any census records......apart from the 1901 census I posted for John and Amelia. :-S

Christina

Christina Report 20 Jun 2015 16:21

Hi Prickly

Wow this is amazing thank you for your time

Kind regards

Christina

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jun 2015 16:25

I am not seeing a baptism for John Marcus senior....A Sister ?........

(A different mother though.......perhaps a second wife for Marcus?)

Hannah Mellon in the Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name:Hannah Mellon
Abode: London Road
Baptism Date:8 Feb 1833
Parish:Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father:Marcus Mellon (Joiner)
Mother:Martha Mellon
Register Type:Bishop's Transcripts

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Jun 2015 19:21

"albert's" baptism hasn't been mistranscibed. On the baptism entry it is clearly Alfred. That would make more sense as John and Annie already had a son called Albert William b. 1884. He is with his brother John on the 1901 census.

This is the Lady that registered the birth. I wonder if she made a mistake and Albert was really meant to be registered as Alfred.

1901

Ann Hulbert
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Harpurhey and Moston Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3756
Folio: 138
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Hulbert 42
Arthur Hulbert 17
Dora Hulbert 14
John Hulbert 10
James Hulbert

Not sure if she was related to the Booths or a family friend.

Christina

Christina Report 20 Jun 2015 22:25

Hi Rootgatherer

I think this lady was the local midwife because on the birth certificate it say X the mark of Ann Hulbert present at the birth

Kind regards

Christina

malyon

malyon Report 20 Jun 2015 22:30

i think that a x is the mark of someone who cannot write their name

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jun 2015 09:10

Ann Hulbert's occupation in 1901 is washerwoman.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 10:28

This is interesting.

I am not seeing a baptism......but it seems John Marcus Mellon also had a son Benjamin.

Benjamin Mellon in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name:Benjamin Mellon (Bachelor) Dyer....21 Thornton Street
Birth Year:abt 1872
Age:20
Marriage Date:1 May 1892
Parish:Collyhurst, St James
Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James
Father's name:John Mellon (Ships Steward)
Spouse's Name:Ruth Dodd (Spinster) Weaver....21 Thornton Street
Spouse's Father's Name:James Dodd (Brick Setters Labourer)
Witnesses: George Thomas Widow and Elizabeth Hall


Benjamin Patrick Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Benjamin Patrick Mellon
Registration Year:1871
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Liverpool
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8b
Page:74


Boarding with his Father in 1881?

Benjamin Mellon in the 1881 England Census
Name:Benjamin Mellon
Age:9
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Relationship to Head:Boarder
Gender:Male
Where born:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkdale
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:26 Dryburgh St
Occupation:Scholar
Registration district:West Derby
Sub registration district:Kirkdale

Household Members:

Elizabeth Thistlethwaite 40
Henry Thistlethwaite 17
Alfred Thistlethwaite 14
Fanny F. Thistlethwaite 10
Bermell W. Thistlethwaite 8
Mary Thistlethwaite 6
John Mellon 44 Widower........Labourer
Benjamin Mellon 9
William Parry 67

Benjamin P Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Benjamin P Mellon
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Registration Year:1905
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:33
Registration district:Prestwich
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8d
Page:262


Benjamin P Mellon in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name:Benjamin P Mellon
Death Date:Oct 1905
Cemetery:Manchester General Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:
Manchester, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

" Millon" on the 1901 census.....

Benjamin Millon in the 1901 England Census
Name:Benjamin Millon
Age:29
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Spouse:Ruth Millon
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish:Harpurhey and Moston Christchurch
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Manchester
Sub-registration district:St George

Household Members:

Benjamin Millon 29 Bleachers labourer
Ruth Millon 29
Mary A Millon 7
Mary Ann Millon 4
Benjamin Millon 11/12

Benjamin and Ruth also had a son......John Marcus Mellon


John Marcus Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name:John Marcus Mellon
Abode: 4 Mou?? Place
Birth Date:23 Mar 1892
Age:0
Baptism Date:18 May 1892
Parish:Collyhurst, St James
Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James
Father's name:Benjamin Mellon (Dyer)
Mother's name:Ruth Mellon

Sadly.....

John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:John Marcus Mellon
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1892
Registration Year:1892
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:0
Registration district:Manchester
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8d
Page:240


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 10:40

Ruth went on to marry Thomas Cartwright in 1908......

Ruth Mellon in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name:Ruth Mellon (Widow) 34 Moss Strreet
Birth Year:abt 1872
Age:36
Marriage Date:3 Apr 1908
Parish:Denton, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Denton, Christ Church
Father's name:James Dodd
Spouse's Name:Thomas Cartwright (Bachelor) Moulder...18 Moss Street
Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Cartwright


The children are down as "Mellor" on the 1911......

Ruth Cartwright in the 1911 England Census
Name:Ruth Cartwright
Age in 1911:38
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1873
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Denton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:3 John Street Denton Manchester
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Cotton Weaver
Registration district:Ashton under Lyne
Sub-registration district:Denton

Household Memebers

Thomas Cartwright Head 1873 38 Male Married Iron Moulder Boston Masceutes
Ruth Cartwright Wife 1873 38 Female Married Cotton Weaver Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester
Ethel Cartwright Daughter 1910 4/12 Female Denton, Lancashire, England
Mary Alice Mellor Stepdaughter 1894 17 Female Single Cotton Ring Spinner Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester
Mary Ann Mellor Stepdaughter 1897 14 Female Single Cotton Ring Spinner Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester
Benjamin Mellor Stepson 1901 10 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
Harold Mellor Stepson 1903 8 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
Alfred Mellor Stepson 1905 6 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 11:23

Ah ha!!

Another transcription error.

Benjamin is with his married sister Agnes in 1891.......

Benjamin Mellone in the 1891 England Census
Name:Benjamin Mellone
Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874
Relation:Brother-in-law (Brother)
Gender:Male
Where born:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
County/Island:Lancashire


Registration district:Manchester
Sub registration district:St George
Country:England

Household Members


John W Smith Head Male 27 1864 Aldershot (Blacksmith)
Agnes Smith Wife Female 25 1866 Liverpool Lancashire
Harry Smith Son Male 2 1889 Manchester Lancashire
Alfred Smith Son Male 1 1890 Manchester Lancashire
Benjamin Mellone Brother-in-law Male 17 1874 Liverpool Lancashire (General Labourer)



Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
Mellon Agnes Bury 8c 598
Smith John William Bury 8c 598

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 11:44

Agnes is a widow in 1911.......

Agnes Smith in the 1911 England Census
Name:Agnes Smith
Age in 1911:45
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Middleton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:85 Boarshaw Rd Middleton Lancashire
Marital Status:Widowed
Registration district:Oldham

Household Members

Agnes Smith Head 1866 45 Female Widowed Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Harry Smith Son 1889 22 Male Single Mechanic Manchester, Lancashire, England
Alfred Smith Son 1890 21 Male Single Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ralph Smith Son 1892 19 Male Single Cotton Factory Manchester, Lancashire, England
Agnes Smith Daughter 1894 17 Female Single Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Smith Son 1896 15 Male Single Engine Head Tenter Manchester, Lancashire
Annie Smith Daughter 1898 13 Female Cloth Stretcher Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Smith Son 1900 11 Male Half Tearer School Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Smith Daughter 1902 9 Female School Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ethel Smith Daughter 1906 5 Female School Manchester, Lancashire, England
Arthur Smith Son 1910 1 Male Middleton, Lancashire, England

(10 children born and living)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 13:41

Mary Ann Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name:Mary Ann Mellon
Birth Date:31 Mar 1897
Age:0
Baptism Date:21 Apr 1897
Parish:Collyhurst, St James
Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James
Father's name:Benjamin Mellon
Mother's name:Ruth Mellon


Benjamin Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name:Benjamin Mellon
Baptism Date:30 May 1900
Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey
Father's name:Benjamin Mellon
Mother's name:Ruth Mellon

There does not appear to be baptism's for Mary Alice, Harold and Alfred.

Christina

Christina Report 21 Jun 2015 15:59

PricklyHolly

Thank you for your help. I have put all your info on my tree.

Kind regards

Chistina

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jun 2015 16:24

My pleasure.

Prickles. x

Christina

Christina Report 23 Jun 2015 13:34

My Father was married before he met my mother, can anyone help me to find this marriage. I have tried but as I am a novice I don't know where to look. I would also like to find if he had children from this marriage. Can any one please tell me where I can search.

Kind regards

Christina

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Jun 2015 14:42

Without any idea of even a first name for his first wife it would be almost impossible as there are so many Albert Booth marriages. Do you have any idea of even an approximate year for his first marriage?

Christina

Christina Report 23 Jun 2015 15:39

Dear rootgatherer

Unfortunately I have no idea.

But thank you any way.

Kind regards

Christina