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Marriages Jun 1935 (>99%)
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Gray Robert Trotter Tynemouth 10b 467
Trotter Davinia Gray Tynemouth 10b 467


(although an old query, Angela looks to have posted below, relates to Davinia)



Baptisms Tynemouth 1896 Davinia Trotter 1896 5 North Terrace

http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/


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(Family left for Canada 1947 (12/10/) Ship, Empress of Canada. Halifax. Last UK Address, Mapperley, Nottingham. Davinia age 34)


Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Trotter Davinia Swinhoe Tynemouth 10b 378

Chris :)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/485139

Angela Report 4 Dec 2008 20:37

Hello Audrey,
My husband Lou Churchill had a Great Aunt Vena who was married to Rob Grey. They did go to Canada for a while and their daughter Mavis died there. Both Vena and Rob are now deceased but there are still relatives in North Shields and surrounding areas.
His dad Luis Churchill has a sister Yvonne and brother David who I beleive are the last descendants of the Trotter family. Their father Luis was married to Nancy Trotter, Vena's sister. Their brother David died a few years ago.
Angela

An odd transcription.......but here is the family in 1901

George A David in the 1901 England Census
Name:George A David
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Srutter David
Mother:Margaret David
Birth Place: Whitchaven, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend

Household Members:


Srutter David 45 ....This should read.......David Trotter (Born Scotland)
Margaret David 46 Born Scotland
William David 26 Born Scotland
Mary E David 16
George A David 12
Sarah A David 11
Thomas H David 7
Davina David 5
Margaret Nigg 2 (Granddaughter)

(Res: 5 North Terrace)

David Snr has been transcribed as ...Trotter David.....which is why all the other family members have been transcribed with the surname "David"


David Trotter in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: David Trotter
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Trotter
Gender: Male
Where born: Closeburn, Dumfriesshire
Registration district: Dalton
Civil Parish: Dalton
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Butterwhat Cottage
Occupation: Ploughman (Dom Ser)

Household Members:

David Trotter 25
Margaret Trotter 26
William Trotter 6
Archibald Trotter 2
Agnes M Trotter 9 Mo


David Trotter in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: David Trotter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1855
Birth Place: Closeburn,Dumfries,Scotland
Father: William Trotter
Mother: Margaret Fergueson

A tree on ancestry has George Alexander Trotter as the husband of Elizabeth.

According to the 1911 census, George Alexander Trotter was one of 10 children, 9 of whom were still living.

1891

George A Trotter
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: David Trotter
Mother's name: Margaret Trotter
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Civil Parish: Moresby
Ecclesiastical parish: Moresby
Town: Parton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4312
Folio: 159
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
David Trotter 36
Margaret Trotter 37
William Trotter 16
Archibald Trotter 12
Agnes Trotter 10
Maggie Trotter 8
May L Trotter 6
George A Trotter 2
Sarah F Trotter 1/12

I will send Angela a PM to let her know she has received replies.

It's possible that the George Trotter born 1895 North Shields may have served in the Navy:-

George Trotter
UK, Campaign Medals Awarded to WWI Merchant Seamen, 1914-1925

Name: George Trotter
Birth Date: 1895
Birth Place: North Shields
Year Issued: 1914-1925

Name: George Trotter
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1895
Year Range: 1905-1916
Service number: 2/194
Division: Tyneside

This may be Elizabeth in 1911


Name: Elizabeth Swinhoe
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Willington Quay, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
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County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 40 Palmers Terrace Willington Quay
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Tynemouth
Registration District Number: 559
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 30729
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brydon Swinhoe 56
Ann Swinhoe 57
Elizabeth Swinhoe 20
May Swinhoe 18
George Swinhoe 5/12 - Grandson

...................just wondering if George (the grandson) is the illegitimate son of Elizabeth?
But that is just me thinking out loud.


EDIT:-
sadly

Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%)
Swinhoe George 0 Tynemouth 10b 251

This is George Alexander in 1911

George Alexander Trotter in the 1911 England Census
Name: George Alexander Trotter
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Parton, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 5 North Terrace Wallsend
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Horizontal Driller
Registration district: Tynemouth


Household Members:

David Trotter 55 Clasburn, Dumfries, Scotland (Labourer Forge)
Margaret Trotter 56 Penpont, Dumfriesshire
George Alexander Trotter 21
Thomas Fairchild Trotter 17 Parton, Cumberland, England
Davinia Trotter 14 Wallsend, Newcastle upon Tyne

**A coincidence that George and Elizabeth Swinhoe named 2 of their children David and Davinia??**

Angela,
Do you have the marriage certificate?
If you don't then I would suggest buying a copy before you go any further to check his age and occupation.
It will also give you his father's name and his occupation to confirm, or not, information found.

You say George was one of 11 and you give the names of his siblings which are the same as those in the census records posted at the beginning, so how do you know this?

Hi Angela

Are you certain that the George Trotter who married Elizabeth Swinhoe was born in 1895??

The marriage registration give him a middle initial of "A"


Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Swinhoe Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 389
Trotter George A Tynemouth 10b 389

So I am wondering about this one......

George Alexander Trotter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837 1915
Name: George Alexander Trotter
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Whitehaven
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 618


Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
Swinhoe Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 191


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name Elizabeth Trotter
Birth Date 3 Nov 1890
Date of Registration Dec 1969
Age at Death 79
Registration district Northumberland South
Inferred County Northumberland
Volume 1b
Page 928


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name George A Trotter
Birth Date abt 1890
Date of Registration Mar 1959
Age at Death 69
Registration district Northumberland South
Inferred County Northumberland
Volume 1b
Page 415

Anyone found Isaac born 1837 (George's father) after 1861 census ?


I can't see him anywhere.
Thought he may have travelled a bit being an engineer but can't see anything as yet.


Wife in 1891 now noted as widow.

Name: Alice Trotter
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England
[South Shields, Durham, England]
Civil Parish: Chirton
Ecclesiastical parish: Western Town
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4224
Folio: 75
Page Number: 75
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Trotter 53
Thomas Trotter 17
Annie Trotter 15
Robert Trotter 12


Possibel death for Alice:-

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Trotter Alice 61 S. Shields 10a 405

Isabella Trotter in the 1861 England Census
Name: Isabella Trotter
Age:50
Estimated birth year:1811
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born:North Sh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish:Tynemouth
Town:North Shields
County/Island:Northumberland
Country: England

Household Members:

Ann Marshall 28
Isabella Trotter Marshall 4
Isabella Trotter 50 (Widow)


Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
MARSHALL William Sandford Tynemouth
TROTTER Ann Tynemouth 10b 216


Isabella Trotter in the 1881 England Census
Name: Isabella Trotter
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: No Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 3 Birds Yard
Marital Status: Widow
Registration district:Tynemouth

Household Members:

Isabella Trotter 71



Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
Trotter Isabella 73 Tynemouth 10b 127

Possible christening for Isaac (the elder)

Name: Isaac Trotter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1808
Christening Date: 30 Apr 1809
Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's name: William Trotter
Mother's name: Anne Hailes
Maternal Grandfather's Name: William Hailes

Isaac Trotter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Isaac Trotter
Registration Year:1855
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 2

Isaac Trotter in the 1851 England Census
Name: Isaac Trotter
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation:Son
Father's name:Isaac Trotter
Mother's name:Isabella Trotter
Gender:Male
Where born:Northd, North Shields
Civil Parish:Tynemouth
Ecclesiastical parish:Tynemouth

Household Members:

Isaac Trotter 42 (Baker)
Isabella Trotter 40
Ann Trotter 18
Isaac Trotter 14
George Trotter 12


Isaac Trotter in the 1841 England Census
Name: Isaac Trotter
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Isaac Trotter 30 (Baker)
Isabella 30
Ann 9
John 7
Isaac Trotter 5
George 2

Isaac Trotter in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Isaac Trotter
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Sep 1836
Christening Place: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Father's name: Isaac Trotter
Mother's name: Isabella

Name: Isaac Trotter
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: St. Hilda, South Shields, Durham, England
Father: Isaac Trotter
Spouse: Alice Penman
FHL Film Number: 1894151
Reference ID: 167


Possible death and probate for either father or his son

Name: Isaac Trotter
Probate Date: 8 Nov 1895
Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Death Date: 2 Oct 1895
Death Place: North Shields, Northumberland, England

..............of Vergers cottage Preston road North Shields engineer ...........to Mary Jane Caslaw (wife of James Caslaw) Effects £50

EDIT:-
..................just to proove this is for the son

Name: Isaac Trotter
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Tynemouth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 137

Isaac Trotter in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Isaac Trotter
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: St. Hilda'S Church, South Shields, Durham, England
Spouse: Alice Penman

..........and again in 1861:-

Name: Isaac Trotter
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Trotter
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth
Town: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Engine Wright
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 159
Piece: 3842
Folio: 46
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Trotter 24
Alice Trotter 24
Mary Jane Trotter 6/12

..........when you see the names of his own children, I think this is a good possibility.

same family in 1871

Name: George Trotter
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Alice Trotter
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 5120
Folio: 64
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Trotter 34 born: South Shields, Durham
Mary Jane Trotter 10
Isabella Trotter 8
George Trotter 6
Isaac Trotter 2