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10 Jul 2016 23:04 |
you are such a nice person
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Gee
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10 Jul 2016 22:46 |
SylviaInCanada
I thought you must 'know that' :-)
The image is VERY clear, good hand writing but if you were tired, it may have confused you
Midnight, UK time, is what in CA.....7ish ;-)
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10 Jul 2016 22:15 |
Gins ........
do you honestly and truly think I don't know that?
really!
I said that the writing on the image COULD be taken for Rachel, meaning at first glance.
......... and I do admit that I didn't look at the image at midnight your time.
That was neglectful of me ............. but I don't need an elementary lesson in reading censuses.
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Jul 2016 22:03 |
(below was Death, later that year)
Chris :)
Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Ruchet-Fairweather Ruby 0 Blean 2a 1219
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10 Jul 2016 22:03 |
SylviaInCanada
The transcription(s) from site to site can be correct/incorrect but the 'image' of the census is a 'scan' of the original
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10 Jul 2016 21:32 |
OK
I bow to Gins superior information
Although I must admit that the handwriting as showing on the ancestry site could be taken as Rachel.
I wonder if the Fairweathers had been there for some time, and naming the son "Ruchet" was a nod to friendship, or to the fact that the 2 mothers were pregnant at the same time?
Linkfield House was definitely a big house ....... 13 rooms, and 16 people living there (9 men, 7 women)
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ArgyllGran
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10 Jul 2016 20:51 |
He's on Gloucester ER's from 1939 to 1971:
Ruchet R Swan in the Gloucestershire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1974
Name: Ruchet R Swan Year: 1971 Country: England County: Gloucestershire Parliamentary Divison: West Gloucestershire
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10 Jul 2016 20:14 |
I'd checked the image and the following is correct:
On the 1911 census, there are two 'Ruby' girls, one an adult (24yr) and the other a daughter (under a mth)
Ruchet Ransome Swan is a boy born 1911, married three times and dies in 1979.
There is no Rachel on the 1911 census
Added: Here he is in 1939
Swan Household (1 Person) 35 Arthur Street , Gloucester C.B., Gloucestershire, England
Rucher (mistranscribed) R Swan 13 Mar 1911 Male Coach Finisher Married 146 1 3 more people who are officially closed
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10 Jul 2016 19:42 |
ArgyllGran
my earlier post didn't appear as clearly as I had hoped, although I didn't notice last night
Ruchet was a mis transcription!!!
FMP version as posted by Gins .........
William Augustus Swan Head Married Male Clerk 31 1880 Hamilton Bermuda Rose Annie Swan Wife Married Female - 34 1877 St Georges Gordon Square London Middlesex William Augustus Swan Son - Male - 9 1902 London Kennington Stanley Howard Swan Son - Male - 7 1904 London Kennington >>>>>>>> Ruchet Ransome Swan Son - Male - 0 1911 Isleworth Middlesex Ruby Ruchet Fairweather Boarder Married Female - 24 1887 Ancroft Northumberland
Version as posted by ancestry ..........
>>>>> Rachel Ransome Swan Under 1 M <<<<<<<< Ruby Rachel Fairweather 24 Ruby Rachel Fairweather 0 Reginald Rachel Fairweather Under 1 M
so it was a little girl called Rachel
BUT ancestry did get the Ruchet wrong for the Fairweathers :-D
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10 Jul 2016 15:53 |
Sylvia, I was intrigued by what connection Ruchet Ransome Swan had to the Ruchet-Fairweather family, too.
Haven't managed to work it out.
His mother wasn't a Ruchet:
Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%) HILL Rose Annie Chelsea 1a 521 Swan William Augustus Chelsea 1a 521
They were an army family:
William A Swan in the 1891 England Census Name: William A Swan Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's name: William S Swan Mother's name: Elizabeth Swan Gender: Male Where born: Bermuda Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Street address: South Kensington Museum, RE Barracks Registration district: Kensington Sub registration district: Brompton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 30 Folio: 119 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age William S [actually A] Swan 44 - Company Sergeant Major, RE, born Chelsea Elizabeth Swan 36 - born Barbados (British Subject) William A Swan 11 - Bermuda Percy Swan 9 - Gibraltar Florence Swan 7 - Chatham, Kent Arthur G Swan 5 - Brompton Victoria Swan 3 - ditto Lilian M Swan 11/12 - ditto
Presumably his father's birth: Births Jun 1848 (>99%) Swan William Augustus Frederick Bethnal Gn 2 24
William and Elizabeth maybe married abroad, perhaps in Bermuda.
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Jul 2016 06:56 |
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fairweather&id=I9235
(just to add, James Young Fairweather on above, from google)
Chris :)
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Gee
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10 Jul 2016 06:45 |
Just posting the details of Henry Ruchet Fairweather' wife
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Main Street, Tweedmouth, Berwick, Northumberland, England Agnes Melville Head Widow Female 36 1855 Laundress Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Robert Swanston Son Single Male 17 1874 Coal Miner Scotland Janet Swanston Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Domestic Servant Cheswick, Northumberland, England Mary Swanston Daughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Ancroft, Northumberland, England Robina Melville Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Ancroft, Northumberland, England
William Melville Son - Male 4 1887 - Berwick, Northumberland, England Hugh Moran Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Tobacco Pipe Maker Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, Church Road, Tweedmouth, Berwick, Northumberland, England John Gibson Head Married Male 37 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, England Agnes Gibson Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Tynemouth, Northumberland, England William Melville Step Son Single Male 14 1887 - Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, England Agnes Simpson Step Grand Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, England
Robina Melville Step Daughter Single Female 15 1886 School Teacher Ancroft, Northumberland, England
To check her marriage (1910c) to 'Fairweather' you would need to purchase credits from here:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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10 Jul 2016 00:32 |
Google Reginald Ruchet Fairweather, and there are several mentions of him being made in The London Gazette ...... presumably promotions in rank
eg https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/35005/page/6862/data.pdf
The undermentioned Squadron Leaders are transferred to the Technical Branch. 24th Apr. 1940. . Reginald Ruchet FAIRWEATHER (33054).
Also references to him being in the RAF prior to WW2
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SylviaInCanada
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10 Jul 2016 00:27 |
There is also a memorial to Gordon Melville Ruchet Fairweather in Royston in the grounds of Royston Church on Church Street, and is inscribed:
IN LOVING AND GRATEFUL MEMORY OF THE MEN FROM THE VILLAGE OF ROYSTON WHO LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES IN THE GREAT WAR 1914 - 1918 (NAMES) 1939 - 1945 (NAMES)
Gordon Melville Ruchet Fairweather (567309) Royal Air Force 29 July 1942, aged 24 Son of Henry Ruchet Fairweather and Rubina Fairweather. Alamein Memorial
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10 Jul 2016 00:14 |
??? Gordon Melville's birth
Births Jun 1918 (>99%) Fairweather Gordon M H Melville Berwick 10b 895
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10 Jul 2016 00:02 |
I was intrigued by the Ruchet Ransome Swan as posted by Gins at 05:25, and wondered what the connection was ............
William Augustus Swan Head Married Male Clerk 31 1880 Hamilton Bermuda Rose Annie Swan Wife Married Female - 34 1877 St Georges Gordon Square London Middlesex William Augustus Swan Son - Male - 9 1902 London Kennington Stanley Howard Swan Son - Male - 7 1904 London Kennington >>>>>>>> Ruchet Ransome Swan Son - Male - 0 1911 Isleworth Middlesex Ruby Ruchet Fairweather Boarder Married Female - 24 1887 Ancroft Northumberland >>>>> Rachel Ransome Swan Under 1 M <<<<<<<< Ruby Rachel Fairweather 24 Ruby Rachel Fairweather 0 Reginald Rachel Fairweather Under 1 M
so ancestry is not the only site that has rotten transcriptions :-) :-D
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Craig
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9 Jul 2016 23:42 |
This is to everyone who has replied, thanks a lot for all the info, I will sift thru it all soon, will be oversea's till the end of the month. Craig
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ArgyllGran
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9 Jul 2016 12:18 |
Augustine R Fairweather in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: Augustine R Fairweather Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Y Fairweather Gender: Female Where born: Frankfort Ontho Maine, Germany Registration Number: 387 Registration district: Perth Civil Parish: Perth East Church and Tibbermore County: Perthshire Address: Pitheavlis Bank ED: 9 Household schedule number: 294 LINE: 16 Roll: cssct1881_109 Household Members: Name Age James Y Fairweather 32 Augustine R Fairweather 29 Esther Fairweather 8 Louise Fairweather 6 Rose Fairweather 3 James Fairweather 1 Jane McFarlane 16 - servant
Marie Augustine Ruchet Fairweather in the Perth, Scotland Newspaper Index Cards, 1809-1990 Name: Marie Augustine Ruchet Fairweather Publication Date: 28 Nov 1931 DEATH: 25/11/1931
A tree on Ancestry takes Marie Augustine's family back to her grandparents.
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ArgyllGran
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9 Jul 2016 12:16 |
Marie Augustine's marriage:
J. Y. Fairweather in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: J. Y. Fairweather Gender: Male Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1872 Marriage Place: Perth,Perth,Scotland Spouse: M. A. Ruchet FHL Film Number: 6035516
Augustine Fairweather in the 1891 Scotland Census Name: Augustine Fairweather Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Y Fairweather Gender: Female Where born: Maine, Frankforton (mistranscription - Mainz? Frankfurt?) Registration Number: 387 Registration district: Perth Civil Parish: Perth East Church Town: Perth County: Perthshire Address: Pitheavlis Bank ED: 9 Household schedule number: 120 LINE: 17 Roll: CSSCT1891_117 Household Members: Name Age James Y Fairweather 42 Augustine Fairweather 39 Esther Fairweather 18 Louise Fairweather 16 Rose Fairweather 13 James Fairweather 11 Francis Fairweather 9 Henry Fairweather 6 William Fairweather 4 Georgina Fairweather 5 Mos
Assuming Frankfurt is her birthplace, then this could be her birth;
Maria Auguste Ruchet in the Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 Name: Maria Auguste Ruchet Gender: Female Birth Date: 3 Mai 1851 (3 May 1851) Baptism Date: 11 Mai 1851 (11 May 1851) Baptism Place: Evangelisch,Soedel,Oberhessen,Hesse-Darmstadt Father: August Ruchet Mother: Katharine Jost FHL Film Number: 1269772
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9 Jul 2016 09:07 |
Reginald's father:
Dundee Evening Telegraph - Wednesday 13 September 1922
PERTH MAN'S DEATH IN ENGLAND One of the most promising of Perth's young men, Mr Henry Rupert Fairweather M.A, B.Sc, F.Sc, Principal Municipal Technical School and Science Master ,Bishop Vassey, has died at Copthorpe Tudor Hill, Sutton Coldfield, eight mile from Birmingham.
Mr Fairweather who was the third son of Mr J Y Fairweather, accountant in the employment of Mssrs Condie & M'Kenzie solicitors, Perth, was the first winner of the Town Council's gold medal at Sharp's Institution, Perth, and later he graduated to St Andrews University. A man of outstanding ability, the news of his death came as a blow to his friends in the Fair City.
Thirty eight years of age, deceased is survived by a widow and two of a family.
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