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Shirley,
I have not yet applied for a wedding certificate, so that I do not know his status when he married Clarice.

Thanks to everyone else who have added information.
on Freebmd it shows two births in Glanford Borough and Scunthorpe in 1937 and 1939 under the name of Cant with mother's maiden name of Castles. Which would tie in with the information from rootgatherer

On the 1939 register for Miriam a note written in red says "see page 22" but I have no idea how to find that page.

Not sure why we can't (pun not intended) find another marriage or a death for Miriam.

Perhaps someone with Ancestry could checkout deaths for a Miiam with the DOB on the 1939 register.

3 deaths on ancestry for Miriam Cant, with vrying other forenames.

None with the birth date 1902 ...... see below

Miriam Elizabeth Cant 1881 Dec 1970 Wycombe Buckinghamshire

Miriam Jane C Cant 1890 Dec 1977 Sudbury Suffolk

Miriam Cant abt 1917 Dec 1950 Samford Suffolk

That 1939 Register entry could be for this Miriam Castles


Miriam Castles 1902 Jul-Aug-Sep Grimsby Lincolnshire

BTW ....................

just as a clarification ..........

Allport E Cant is shown as Married on the 1939 Register

Point of interest ...............


Note that Edward's birth was registered as Edward Hallport Cant

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Cant Edward Hallport Grimsby 7a 606

This spelling is used in the Public Family Trees on ancestry, including on the Cant Family Tree.

and on the censuses

1901 Census

Name: Edward H Cant
Age: 5/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Cant
Mother: Margaret A Cant
Birth Place: Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Cleethorpes
Search Photos: Search for 'Cleethorpes' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Clee Holy Trinity
Town: Cleethorpes
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 56

Piece: 3095
Folio: 114
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 39

William Cant 34
Margaret A Cant 31
Hannah M E Cant 5
Edward H Cant 5/12
Sarah A Cran 17


1911 Census

Margaret Ann Cant 40
William Henry Cant 7
Hannah Mary E Cant 15
Edward Halfost Cant 10


It is Halport on the image

I can't see the image of this baptism, but I bet it should read Hallport!!


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Edward Gallport Cant
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1900
Baptism Place: St. John the Evangelist, Clee, Lincoln, England
Father: William Bell Cant
Mother: Margaret Ann Cant
FHL Film Number: 1541937
Reference ID: Page 52 No. 414


and this is probably the marriage of Edward's parents ........

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Cant William Bell Hartlepool 10a 208
Oram Margaret Ann Hartlepool 10a 208

Yes ....... this is the version of the baptism from FindMypast


Lincolnshire Baptisms

First name(s) Edward Hallport
Last name Cant
Sex Male
Birth year 1900
Birth date 23 Oct 1900
Baptism year 1900
Baptism date 23 Nov 1900
Church St John
Place New Clee St John
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William Bell
Mother's first name(s) Margaret Ann
Page 52
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom

(below looked to relate also)

Chris :)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Cleethorpes
Church name Municipal Cemetery
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 24 Oct 1899
Person age 17 m
Burial person forename George Trueman
Burial person surname CANT
Burial person abode 27 Guildford St N/C
Relationship Son of
Male relative forename William Bell
Female relative forename Margaret Ann
Relative surname CANT
Register note Died 16 Oct 1899

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Thanks for looking at those deaths Sylvia. Any chance you could search on Ancestry for a death for Miriam using that birthdate but no surname please? There are a couple in Lincolnshire but I no longer subscribe to Ancestry so I am unable to see the DOB for them. I was just wondering if her death was registered in a different surname. Thank you.

The Miriam Cant on the 1939 found by Rootgather is likely correct. Her birth date is given as 2 Aug 1902 (it did state 1901, but that was changed- the change has an area code TKA which is Lincolnshire, Lindsey, Grimsby).

On the original 1939 above Miriam's name it has MGR (I think). There is no area code for MGR so unsure of its meaning. Below Miriam there are 3 closed records.

The birth date matches school record:

National School Admission Registers & Log-books
First name(s) Miriam
Last name Castles
Birth year 1902
Birth date 02 Aug 1902
Event year 1911
School name South Parade Jun Girls School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Mrs Hamming
Book type Admissions

Address: 23 Annesley St.

(just to add Alfred E Howson had just lost his wife, Florence M (Maiden Name Eggitt)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(not seeing a lot on above, can be useful Lincs.)

Thanks for that AustinQ. I thought it said MGR too (rather than the OCR on the transcript).

Wonder who Mrs. Hamming was.

I think it says Lamming

In 1913 her Parent/ Guardian on the school admissions was listed as Mrs Mortlock, 5 Cobden Street.

(AQ, have you got time to look at another School one for Miriam, 1913?)

(really must move here, been looking Lincs. newspapers)

Chris :)

Edits (lol, well done on 1913!)

(another 1902, has A. Lammin. Gives 12/4/02 Birth on that)

Already posted Chris:

First name(s) Miriam
Last name Castles
Birth year 1901
Birth date 02 Aug 1901
Event year 1913
School name King Edward Street School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Mrs Mortlock
Book type Admissions

Address: 5 Cobden Street

Am presuming this is her in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12 Lime Street Great Grimsby, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

Mary Castles Head Widow Female - 42 1869 Alford
Gertrude Castles Daughter Single Female - 18 1893 Grimsby
Annie Castles Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Grimsby
Miriam Castles Daughter Single Female - 8 1903 Grimsby
Auther Goodings Boarder Single Male Slopeman 28 1883 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk
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Same family 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
197, Burgess Street, Grimsby, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

Albert E Castles Head Married Male 27 1874 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Castles Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Spalding, Lincolnshire, England
Anne Castles Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Gerty Castles Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
George Lammin Lodger Single Male 21 1880 Bricklayer Grimsby, Lincolnshire,
John Lammin Lodger Single Male 23 1878 Bricklayer Grimsby, Lincolnshire

I think the Mortlock surname was from her sister Annie:

1939:
Arthur E Mortlock 28 Jun 1891 Male Fisherman Dock Hand Weekly Arti? Married
Ann S Mortlock 20 Jan 1894 Female Household Duties Married
Closed Record
Dennis E Mortlock 06 Oct 1920 Male Ice And Cold Storage Worker Single
Closed record
Alan Mortlock 24 Jul ? Male At school
Closed record
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Annie's DOB matches date on school record:

First name(s) Annie
Last name Castles
Birth year 1894
Birth date 20 Jan 1894
Event year 1897
School name Central Market School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions

(just to add below, still haven't moved here yet, lol)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St James
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 48
Baptism date 06 Aug 1873
Birth date 13 Jul 1873
Person forename Albert Edward
Person sex M
Person abode King Edward Street, Grimsby
Father forename William
Father surname CASTLES
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah Ann
Register note Ceremony by H Hutchinson


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 19 Aug 1909
Person age 37
Burial person forename Albert Edward
Burial person surname CASTLES
Register note Died 17 Aug 1909

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St James
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 501
Baptism date 24 Jul 1891
Birth date 20 Jun 1891
Person forename Arthur Edward
Person sex M
Person abode 37 Lime Street, Grimsby
Father forename Arthur
Father surname MORTLOCK
Father occupation Fireman
Mother forename Alathea
Register note Baptised by A N Claye at St Hugh's

Can anyone see the birth regs for Annie and Gertrude Castles please? Not seeing a marriage for mother Mary.

I think this may be the mother in 1881 with brothers John and George who are with her in 1901.

Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sausthorpe Lane End, Partney, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England

William Lammin Head Married Male 35 1846 Bricklayer Halton, Lincolnshire, England
Fanny Lammin Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England
William Lammin Son Single Male 16 1865 Bricklayers Labourer Partney, Lincolnshire, England
Albert Lammin Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Alford, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Ann Lammin Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Alford, Lincolnshire, England
Fanny Lammin Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Partney, Lincolnshire, England
Sabina Lammin Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Rose Annie Lammin Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
John Ths Lammin Son Single Male 2 1879 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England
George Lammin Son Single Male 1 1880 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England