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I have found the death notices in the Local paper for Edward Allport Cant and his second wife Clarice Ethel. Interestingly, their residence was different although they died within a month of each other. neither referred to each other. In Edward's notice, the children from his marriage to Miriam were referred to, but not his children with Clarice. In Clarice's notice only the children she had with Edward were mentioned. All the children between Edward and Clarice were born before their marriage in 1951. They would appear to have separated between 1976 and their deaths in 1983.

I still have not resolved the the problem around Miriam, whether she remarried or died before the 1951 marriage

Once again many thanks to all.

(so the one below then, some more also for Scartho Road, if they relate in. Not seeing Baptism there, for Mary, but others, William and Fanny, Parents, Grimsby 1885, and Partney)

Chris :)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 24 Oct 1911
Person age 41
Burial person forename Mary Ann
Burial person surname PETTMAN
Register note Died 22 Oct 1911

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Can I thank everyone for the information that has been posted on this thread.

I was already in possession of some of the facts, but there has been other facts which I ws not aware of. The two Pettman daughters did marry two brothers. Gertrude's first husband was lost at Sea when the trawler he was working on failed to return. Her second husband as shown above was lost during the first world war.

It is fairly obvious that when Mary A Lamming left her husband Edmund Lawton Pettman and lived with Albert Castles, that she took the two girls with her and then used the name Castles for them. However they married under the correct name of Pettman. Mary died in 1911, and was buried under name of Pettman, not Castles

Once again many thanks everyone

Yes, that Burial of Mary must be about somewhere!...

(some of Grimsby are also on below)

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/

(and apart from other Edmund Burial, noted below also)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 08 Oct 1918
Person age 18d
Burial person forename Edmond Lawton
Burial person surname PETTMAN
Register note Died 04 Oct 1918

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Pettman Edmund L Lister Grimsby 7a 937


Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Lister Emily Pettman Grimsby 7a 1436
Pettman Edmund L Lister Grimsby 7a 1436


27 July 1894 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

GRIMSBY BOROUGH POLICE
Threatening A Wife.
Edmund Lawton Pettman, a twine-spinner, was charged with using threatened violence to his wife, Mary Ann Pettman. Mr. Bloomer, for complainant, said the threats had been continual since the parties were married five years ago.
Defendant was bound over to keep the peace for ? months, and to pay costs.


http://www.gravestonephotos.com/

(above where Edmund and other Pettman names are, has below)

Scartho Road (21-24 29-32 37-40 45-48 53-56 61-64 69-72) Grimsby Lincolnshire

Hannah Maria Allington grave monument: legible names and details
Hannah Maria Allington
1907 57 1850 first name on monument

Clifford Septimus Pettman
1907 3 1903 relationship not given of Hannah Maria Allington

J W Pettman
relationship not given of Hannah Maria Allington

M A Pettman
relationship not given of Hannah Maria Allington


Deaths Sep 1949 (>99%)
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Pettman Mary A 79 Grimsby 3b 169

Gertrude's second husband

FRANCIS WILLIAM HADLEY

Rank:PrivateService No:8781Date of Death:03/05/1915Age:35Regiment/Service:Royal Warwickshire Regiment 1st Bn. Grave Reference: VIII. B. 26. Cemetery:BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERYAdditional Information:Son of Francis William and Sarah Hadley, of Rugby; husband of G. A. Baldock (formerly Hadley), of 30, Wellington Terrace, Grimsby. Served in the South African Campaign and North West Frontier (India).


(Sorry, it won't let me edit it to make it easier to read)

Ah! I see the two sisters married two brothers

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15 David St Grimsby, Clee, Lincolnshire, England

Alathea Mortlock Wife Married Female - 49 1862 Sheffield Yorks
Albert E Mortlock Son Single Male Fisherman 22 1889 Grimsby Lincs
Arthur E Mortlock Son Single Male Fish Cleaner 19 1892 Grimsby Lincs
Alathea Mortlock Daughter Single Female Servant Domestic 16 1895 Grimsby Lincs
Charles Henry Mortlock Son - Male Shop Assistant Grocer 14 1897 Grimsby Lincs
Frank Mortlock Son - Male School 12 1899 Grimsby Lincs
Emily Ada Mortlock Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Grimsby Lincs
George Walter Mortlock Son - Male School 5 1906 Grimsby Lincs

Maybe she was the Mrs. Mortlock on Miriam's 1913 school record as Ann didn't become Mrs. Mortlock til like 1916. Did the sisters marry the same Mortlock?

Doesn't help us find what happened to Miriam after 1939. Can't see a death for Miriam's mother Mary either.

This is Gertrude in 1939:

Baldock Household (3 People) 125 Wood Street , Grimsby C.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

Gertrude Baldock 08 Jul 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Clifford Baldock 21 May 1923 Male Ironmongers Apprentice Single
A H Blackbourn 28 Jan 1916 Male Grocers Assistant Single
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DOB matches school record:

National School Admission Registers & Log-books
First name(s) Gertrude
Last name Castles
Birth year 1892
Birth date 08 Jul 1892
Event year 1897
School name Central Market School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Parent name(s) Albert
Book type Admissions
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Gertrude's 3rd? marriage:

First name(s) Harold Joseph
Last name Baldock
Name note -
Age 19
Marriage year 1919
Marriage date 06 Mar 1919
Marriage place Great Grimsby
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Baldock
Spouse's first name(s) Gertrude Ann
Spouse's last name Hadley
Spouse's birth year 1893
Spouse's birth date 1893
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edmond
Spouse's father's last name Pettman
Residence Great Grimsby, Lincoln, England
County Lincolnshire
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2nd marriage: (she didn't hang around!)

First name(s) GERTRUDE A
Last name MORTLOCK
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1913
Registration month -
Spouse: FRANCIS W HADLEY
Spouse's last name HADLEY
District GRIMSBY
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A Page 1370
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First marriage:

First name(s) Gertrude Ann
Last name Pettman
Age 19
Marriage year 1912
Marriage date 1912
Marriage place Great Grimsby
Father's first name(s) Edmund
Father's last name Pettman
Spouse's first name(s) Albert Ernest
Spouse's last name Mortlock
Spouse's father's first name(s) Arthur
Spouse's father's last name Mortlock
Residence Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Edmund Lawton
Last name Pettman
Sex Male
Age 67
Birth year 1866
Birth date 31 Oct 1866
Death year 1934
Death date 04 Oct 1934
Headstone notes [age calculated] From Frank and Harriett
Burial ground Cemetery
Location Scartho Road
Parish Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Reference R449
Record number 54513
Record set Lincolnshire Monumental Inscriptions
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
Lincolnshire Family History Society

1891

Lime Street, Great Grimsby, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England

Edmund Pettman Head Married Male 24 1867 Turne Spinner Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary A Pettman Wife Married Female 21 1870 - Alford, Lincolnshire, England
Elsie Imeson Nurse Child - Female 1 1890 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

FindMyPast has stopped working but Edmund Pettman was still around in 1891 and may have remarried in 1913 so Mary probably wasn't free to marry Mr. Castles.

Marriages Mar 1889

LAMMING Mary Ann Caistor 7a 739
Pettman Edmund Lawton Caistor 7a 739

Births Sep 1892
Pettman Gertrude Ann Caistor 7a 621


Marriages Jun 1912
Pettman Gertrude A Mortlock , Albert E. Grimsby 7a 1603

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Pettman Ann Shackelton Caistor 7a 639

Where does this fit? Had Ann been married before?

Marriages Jun 1916
Mortlock Arthur E Pattman Grimsby 7a 1539
Pettman Ann S Mortlock Grimsby 7a 1539

Can anyone see the birth regs for Annie and Gertrude Castles please? Not seeing a marriage for mother Mary.

I think this may be the mother in 1881 with brothers John and George who are with her in 1901.

Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sausthorpe Lane End, Partney, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England

William Lammin Head Married Male 35 1846 Bricklayer Halton, Lincolnshire, England
Fanny Lammin Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England
William Lammin Son Single Male 16 1865 Bricklayers Labourer Partney, Lincolnshire, England
Albert Lammin Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Alford, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Ann Lammin Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Alford, Lincolnshire, England
Fanny Lammin Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Partney, Lincolnshire, England
Sabina Lammin Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Rose Annie Lammin Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
John Ths Lammin Son Single Male 2 1879 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England
George Lammin Son Single Male 1 1880 - Partney, Lincolnshire, England

(just to add below, still haven't moved here yet, lol)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St James
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 48
Baptism date 06 Aug 1873
Birth date 13 Jul 1873
Person forename Albert Edward
Person sex M
Person abode King Edward Street, Grimsby
Father forename William
Father surname CASTLES
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah Ann
Register note Ceremony by H Hutchinson


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name Cemetery (Scartho Road)
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 19 Aug 1909
Person age 37
Burial person forename Albert Edward
Burial person surname CASTLES
Register note Died 17 Aug 1909

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Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St James
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 501
Baptism date 24 Jul 1891
Birth date 20 Jun 1891
Person forename Arthur Edward
Person sex M
Person abode 37 Lime Street, Grimsby
Father forename Arthur
Father surname MORTLOCK
Father occupation Fireman
Mother forename Alathea
Register note Baptised by A N Claye at St Hugh's

I think the Mortlock surname was from her sister Annie:

1939:
Arthur E Mortlock 28 Jun 1891 Male Fisherman Dock Hand Weekly Arti? Married
Ann S Mortlock 20 Jan 1894 Female Household Duties Married
Closed Record
Dennis E Mortlock 06 Oct 1920 Male Ice And Cold Storage Worker Single
Closed record
Alan Mortlock 24 Jul ? Male At school
Closed record
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Annie's DOB matches date on school record:

First name(s) Annie
Last name Castles
Birth year 1894
Birth date 20 Jan 1894
Event year 1897
School name Central Market School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions

Am presuming this is her in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12 Lime Street Great Grimsby, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

Mary Castles Head Widow Female - 42 1869 Alford
Gertrude Castles Daughter Single Female - 18 1893 Grimsby
Annie Castles Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Grimsby
Miriam Castles Daughter Single Female - 8 1903 Grimsby
Auther Goodings Boarder Single Male Slopeman 28 1883 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk
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Same family 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
197, Burgess Street, Grimsby, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

Albert E Castles Head Married Male 27 1874 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Castles Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Spalding, Lincolnshire, England
Anne Castles Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Gerty Castles Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
George Lammin Lodger Single Male 21 1880 Bricklayer Grimsby, Lincolnshire,
John Lammin Lodger Single Male 23 1878 Bricklayer Grimsby, Lincolnshire

Already posted Chris:

First name(s) Miriam
Last name Castles
Birth year 1901
Birth date 02 Aug 1901
Event year 1913
School name King Edward Street School
Town Grimsby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Mrs Mortlock
Book type Admissions

Address: 5 Cobden Street