Charles is my maternal great-grandfather. He married my great-grandmother Mary Jane Stanley in 1868 in Leicester [3rd quarter 1868 Vol.7A/339] then absconded in 1881 to Stroud, where he got married again to Louisa Perrott in Gloucester [2nd quarter 1885 Vol. 6A/499]. There does not seem to have been a divorce, unsurprisingly, but he was tried for neglecting to maintain his first marriage children in Leicester in 1881! I would love to hear from anyone who knows Charles from either of his two families, so I can find out what actually happened. My grandmother never talked about it!
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Is this your Charles - for reference
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: GIBBS, CHARLES HENRY ROE Order GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 15 Page 127
------------------------------------------- 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Frederick Street, Bedminster Bishport, Bedminster, Somerset, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Gibbs Head Married Male 40 1851 Tailor Leicester, Leicestershire, England Louisa C Gibbs Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Louisa B Gibbs Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Albert E Gibbs Son - Male 1 1890 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England George Perrott Son In Law - Male 8 1883 Scholar Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Albert E Dormmett Brother In Law Single Male 17 1874 Tailor Presser Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ship Court, 2, Redcliff Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles H Gibbs Head Married Male 50 1851 Tailor Leicestershire, England George E Jerrott Step Son Single Male 18 1883 Grocer's Porter Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Albert E Gibbs Son - Male 11 1890 School Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Charles H Gibbs Son - Male 7 1894 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Louisa C Gibbs Wife Married Female 36 1865 Tailoress Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Louisa B Gibbs Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Lilian M Gibbs Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Ivy Jane Gibbs Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
---------------------------------- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Ship Court Redcliffe Hill Bristol, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Charles Henry Gibbs Head Married Male Tailor - Maker 61 1850 St Margarets Leicester Louisa Clara Gibbs Wife Married Female Tailoress - Baster 46 1865 Stroud Gloster George Edward Perrott Stepson Single Male Fish Porter 28 1883 Stroud Gloster Lillian Maud Gibbs Daughter Single Female Cigarrette - Maker 19 1892 Totterdown Bristol Charles Henry Gibbs Son Single Male Street Iron Worker 17 1894 Totterdown Bristol Ivy Jane Gibbs Daughter Single Female Paper Bag Maker 14 1897 Bristol St Lukes Sidney Gibbs Son - Male School 6 1905 Bristol Redcliffe Violet Gibbs Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Bristol Redcliffe
Married 26 years - 11 children born to marriage, 6 still living, 5 have died
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(saw below)
Chris :)
02 July 1881 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Neglecting his Children. Charles Henry Gibbs was charged on remand from yesterday with neglecting his two children, whereby they became chargeable to the common funds of the Leicester Union. Mr. Thomas Wright appeared for the defendant, whose two children became chargeable on the 21st June. It was stated by Mr. Wright, that the defendant was perfectly willing to maintain his children. He was ordered to pay £2 14s for maintenance and expenses.
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Possible death for Charles as you don't appear to have that from your heading
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) CHARLES H Last name GIBBS Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1850 Age 67 Death quarter 3 Death year 1917 District BRISTOL County Gloucestershire Volume 6A Page 24
------------------------------------ And for Louisa England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) LOUISA C Last name GIBBS Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1864 Age 62 Death quarter 4 Death year 1926 District BRISTOL County Gloucestershire Volume 6A Page 79
Neither appear to have left a will which went to probate.
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You will probably never know exactly what happened. A great aunt of mine was abandoned by her husband who supposedly went to Canada - maybe a good story at the time which has been passed down. I have found him remarried in the next census (1911) a couple of counties away, with 3 children and with a further 9 to come!!
People fell out, weren't compatable etc and just parted as divorce was so expensive. There are many couples to be found either bigamously married or just living together as man and wife.
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At least it looks as though Louisa was free to re-marry
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) GEORGE Last name PERROTT Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1862 Age 21 Death quarter 2 Death year 1883 District STROUD County Gloucestershire Volume 6A Page 204 Country England
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Louisa's first Marriage - maiden name Dommett
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%) Dommett Louisa Clara Stroud 6a 551 Perrott George Stroud 6a 551
--------------------------------------- Using the relatively new GRO site giving mmn pre 1912 https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Have found 10 births Gibbs/mmn Dommett (with variations) 1885-1911 and 4 deaths (1911 says 6/5). You may already have them.
Clara Louisa - b1886 Stroud - died 1886 Stroud Louisa Beatrice - b1888 Bedminster - died 1903 Bristol aged 15 Albert Edward - b1890 Bedminster - alive 1901 - can't find 1911 or death pre 1911 Lilian Maud - b1891 Bedminster - alive 1911 Charles Henry - b1894 Bedminster - alive 1911 Ivy Jane - b 1896 Bedminster - alive 1911 Florence Ada - b1899 Bristol - died 1899 Bristol Emily Ethel - b1901 Bristol - died 1902 Bristol Sidney Thomas - b1904 Bristol - alive 1911 Violet Ethel - b1907 Bristol - alive 1911
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1883 perrett george Father stroud d3187/1/3/ Non-conformist
(Baptism from below, if anything else relating there)
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx
(Gloucestershire Archives - Genealogical Search)
Chris :)
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