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James F Tombs - please help!

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safc

safc Report 17 Feb 2017 21:49

Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%)
TOMBS Elizabeth Ann 20 Newport M. 11a 157

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Feb 2017 22:18

???


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Syffil House Pandy Road Bedwas, Bedwas, Monmouthshire, Wales
(Newport Reg district)

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Edward William Edwards Head Married Male Colliery Haulage Engine Driver Below Ground 32 1879 Merthyr Tydfll Glam
Agnes Jane Edwards Wife Married Female - 29 1882 Mynfdd Gimlet Bedwas Mon
Versus Morgan Edwards Son - Male - 4 1907 Bedwas Mon
Frank Tombs Boarder Widower Male Miner Coal Hewer 34 1877 Brockhampton, Hereford<<<<

EDIT - perhaps not. His father on earlier census seems to William and his mother Sarah

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Feb 2017 22:27

?? If correct man on the 1911 posted above, age just out

Ross RD covers Brockhampton

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TOMBS, JAMES -
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ROSS Volume 06A Page 453

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 07:10

The marriage between Elizabeth ann Jones and James could be his first marriage?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Feb 2017 07:29

That Henry Cocks below...

Chris :)

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Cocks Henry John Cardiff 11a 525
Densley Sarah Ann M Cardiff 11a 525


1911 (Find My Past)
Henry John Cocks Husband Married Male Labour City Corporation 33 1878 Cardiff
Maud Cocks Wife Married Female House Duties 32 1879 Cardiff
Address 36 Shakespeare St
Parish Cardiff
County Glamorganshire
Census reference RG14 PN32077 RG78 PN1845 RD588 SD2 ED10 SN76
(says married 12yrs, 1 child born, 1 living)


COCKS, HENRY JOHN (PARRY)
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 260


Deaths Mar 1950 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------
Cocks Henry J 74 Cardiff 8b 242


https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

(on above 1950, at Shakespeare Street, Probate to below couple)


Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Cocks Ethel M George Cardiff 11a 859
George William Cocks Cardiff 11a 859


1939 Register (Find My Past)

41 Shakespeare S , Cardiff C.B., Glamorganshire,
Ethel M George 13 Aug 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
William George 29 Jan 1901 Male Coal Tipper Married
William E George 08 Jan 1928 Male At School Single


(if her below, Daughter of Henry)

COCKS, ETHEL MAY (DENSLEY)
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 361

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 07:52

So Henry John Cocks would probably have been Elizabeths brother?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Feb 2017 08:03

(looks that way!)


COCKS, ELIZABETH (PARRY)
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 306

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Cocks Henry Cardiff 11a 440
Parry Elizabeth Cardiff 11a 440


1891 (Find My Past)
Henry Cox Head Married Male 47 1844 Labourer Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Elizabeth Cox Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Henry Cox Son - Male 14 1877 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Sarah A Cox Daughter - Female 12 1879 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Ed Cox Son - Male 10 1881 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Elizabeth Cox Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Thomas J Cox Son - Male 1 1890 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Hannah J S Evans Visitor Single Female 22 1869 Domestic Servant Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales
Charles Wait Lodger Single Male 59 1832 Basket Maker Reading
Street Castle Road
Parish St John Cardiff
City Cardiff
County Glamorganshire
Registration district Cardiff
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 4390
Folio 81
Page 17

(as you can see, Surname variants come into play, perhaps also, with Tombs)

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:06

Amazing. I think then their parents must be Elizabeth Parry and Henry Cocks.

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:09

I can see Ethel (densley) and Sarah Ann Densley. I'm a bit confused. It is saying Henry was married to Maud. Would Sarah be another wife of Henry?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Feb 2017 08:11

Maud, was probably the M on name of Sarah...

Chris :)

(on that Marriage Cert., who is Father of Elizabeth?)

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:23

I think Elizabeths father might have been William Parry

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Feb 2017 08:31

On the 1911 Tombs Marriage, her Father should be Henry...(for Elizabeth)

Chris :)

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:34

Yes I was talking about elizabeth's mum Elizabeth Parry.

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:39

Any thoughts on John F Tombs?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Feb 2017 08:44

Not at present, lol, having to go shopping shortly...will look in later!.

(might be a case of surname variants again!)

Chris :)

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 08:52

Thank you so much for all your help :)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Feb 2017 09:12

If this is his death, the age is out a bit

JAMES F
Last name TOMBES
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1879
Age 59
Death quarter 1
Death year 1938
District East Glamorgan
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A
Page 964
Country Wales
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

ZoeCharles

ZoeCharles Report 18 Feb 2017 09:37

I can't find that James on freebmd.org.uk?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Feb 2017 09:54

Do you mean that you can't find a matching birth please?

Here's the death from Freebmd

Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%)
TOMBES James F 59 E.Glamorgan 11a 964

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Feb 2017 10:01

Perhaps Tombes was a stepfather's name and his birth was registered in a different surname?