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Thanks Austin
I am still trying to find a connection between Mrs Isabella Milne and Alexander Milne
both living at 312 Bell Street, Glasgow when Alexander married in 1931 on this marriage cert parents Alexander (deceased) and Jeanie/Janie/Jessie White

Ian have you got any of Alexanders&Jeanies childrens birth certificates as usually the parents date of marriage is shown on them in Scotland.

Hi Kay
Sadly I cannot find a birth record for Alexander Milne born abt 1901 the only cert I have is his marriage in 1931

Hi, All
Just found an interesting record the birth of a Jessie White Milne born 1903 Glasgow
Father Alexander Milne Horse Shoer
Mother Agnes McFarlane Jackson
Parents married 1902 Glasgow

Could this be the same Alexander Milne married? to Jeanie/Jessie White
Parents of Alexander Milne b1901

Ian, have you got the death certificate of the person who married in 1931?

no Kay not been able to find Alexander's birth either

Ian, was Alexander a bachelor when he married please?

From his marriage certificate say his mother was Jeanie Milne m.s. White or just Jeanie White?

He may not have been born in Glasgow. Milne is a much more common surname in Aberdeenshire and Angus. Both of those areas are connected with the fishing industry and would probably have a greater number of fish curers.

While I'm not questioning his parentage, it is also worth considering that illegitimate boys often " made up" a father with the same Christian name as their own.

Hi rootgatherer
Marriage gives m.s White I am beginning to think it is possibly Jessie not Jeanie very hard to make out.
I have not been able to find the possible connection between Mrs Isabella Milne and Alexander Milne they were both living at 312 Bell Street, Glasgow 1930/31


I have been looking at this 1901 census family
birth cert of son Alexander 1898
father Alexander Milne
mother Jessie Milne
the 1895 marriage cert for this Alexander Milne gives wife's name Jessie Milne nee Milne

1901 Census
Name:
Alexander Milne
Age:42
Estimated birth year:
abt 1859
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Jessie Milne
Gender: Male
Where born: Gamrie, Banffshire
Registration Number:155A/1
Registration district: Gamrie
Civil Parish: Gamrie
County: Banffshire
Address: Blackhillocks
Occupation: Crofter
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 24
LINE:22
Roll:CSSCT1901_46
Household Members:
Name
Alexander Milne 42
Jessie Milne 43
Mary Jane Milne 14
Alexander Milne 3

(below for Address 1935, listed in 'Wills')

Chris :)

31 March 1935 - Sunday Post - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Mrs Annie Burleigh or Kearney, 312 Bell Street £804

There were quite a few people listed at that address

Alexander, his wife, and Isabella were still there in 1933-1938:

Glasgow Electoral registers:
Alexander Milne
Mrs Isabella Milne
Mrs Nellie Milne

Just going to see if I can spot them there earlier>

OK- it seems looking at the Glasgow Electoral registers that 312 Bell Street was previously 144 Graeme Street.

All the same surnames living there in 1928 including Mrs Isabella Milne and Alexander Milne.
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Using 144 Grame Street on the valuation rolls show that Mrs Isabella was there in 1920.

(not sure if below any help)

Chris :)

Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962 (Ancestry)


http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/

(Scottish Post Office Directories) (to 1912/13)


Edits

(on Ancestry with below, but next page!)
Ll Plack 1930 Bell Street Glasgow


http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/86492576

(image Milnes on Scottish PO, 1911/12)


(probably nothing below, just noticed 'Fish' connection, lol)


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription (Find My Past)

30, Howard Street, Glasgow, Bridgeton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Milne Head Married Male 40 1861 Fish Hawker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Alexander Milne Son Single Male 16 1885 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes Milne Daughter Single Female 15 1886 App Ironplaner Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Lizzie Milne Daughter - Female 12 1889 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Milne Son - Male 10 1891 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William Milne Son - Male 8 1893 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Milne Son - Male 6 1895 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
George Milne Son - Male 4 1897 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Oliver Milne Son - Male 1 1900 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

On the 1939/ 1940 electoral register:

312 Bell Street:

Alexander Milne
Ann M Milne
Mrs Helen Milne
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Helen's death (other surname Ross):
MILNE HELEN CLARK
Age: 80
Year of Death: 1986
Ref: 509/ 166
RD name: Cumbernauld

There are Alexander Milnes that are connected to the fish trade, but I'm struggling to find any connection to your Alexander:

Wills and testaments

Milne Alexander

Date: 8/1/1902

Description: fishcurer, 41 Argyle Street, Lossiemouth, d. 15/12/1901 at Elgin, intestate.

Elgin Sheriff Court Inventories
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But this man was 61 when he died.

OK- this might confuse things- but I found Isabella!

Death:
Isabella Milne (widow of Alexander Milne, shoemaker)
Died: 19th June 1938
Address: 312 Bell Street, Glasgow
Age 81 Years
Father: Gilbert Whyte, cooper, deceased
Mother: Christian Whyte (formerly Sim) deceased
Informant: J Smith (daughter, present at death)
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On the 1937 electoral register these Smiths were also at 312 Bell Street:

Alexander Smith
Mrs Jean Smith

On the 1933 electoral register these Smiths were also at 312 Bell Street

Alexander Smith
Mrs Jean SMith
Jane Smith
Mrs Jean SMith
William SMith

This is the family in 1901.

Name: Alexr Milne
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Isabella Milne
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterhead, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 196
Registration district: Fraserburgh
Civil Parish: Fraserburgh
Town: Fraserburgh
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 37 Bracheads
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 233
LINE: 17

Alexr Milne 52
Isabella Milne 41 born Pitsligo
Ann M Milne 21
Barbara S Milne 22
Jeanie Milne 10
John Milne 8
Christean A B Milne 6
George Shearer 24
Alexr Pirie 27
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Isabella's family 1861:

Name: Gilbert A Whyte
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Christian Whyte
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterhead, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 233
Registration district: Pitsligo
Civil Parish: Pitsligo
County: Aberdeenshire
Occupation: Cooper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 13
LINE: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_32
Household Members:
Name Age
Gilbert A Whyte 32
Christian Whyte 36
Thomas A Whyte 9
Alexander A Whyte 6
Isabella Whyte 4
James S Whyte 2
Jessie S Whyte 1 Mo

Not really relevant to Ian's query, but . . . . . . .

Isabella's parents' marriage:

WHYTE
GILBERT
CHRISTIAN SIM/
09/10/1851
233/
30 149
Pitsligo



and presumably her birth:

WHITE
ISABELLA
F
1857
233/ 17
Pitsligo

Just took a look at the 1911 census for Isabella and family- give me a sec

1911:

Alexander Milne Head 62 married, tinsmith- fish preserving work Peterhead
Isabella Milne Wife 50 married 26 years, 8 children- 4 still living Pitsligo
James Milne son 28 single Cooper fish curing yard Fraserburgh
Barbara Milne daughter 22 single fish preserving work Fraserburgh
Jeanie Milne 20 daughter single fish preserving work Fraserburgh
John Milne 18 son Single Cooper fish curing yard
Christian AB Milne 16 daughter single Fraserburgh
Alexander M Cardno Grandson 9 Fraserburgh


Not sure on the last two letters of Alexander's surname

WOW BINGO
Just found the death of Isabella Milne 1938
widow of Alexander Milne (shoe maker)
home address 312 Bell Street, Glasgow
her father was a Gilbert Whyte (Cooper)
mother Christina Sim

This must be the mother of Alexander Milne b 1901

No- not mother- think you'll find it was Grandmother. A few porkies somewhere