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Trying to help a friend any help greatly appreciated Thanks
Charles Blunt Thompson b. Cambridge 1850 m Mary Ann iliffe b.Burton Latimer 1860 had a daughter Alice 1879 Can no find marriage anywhere. Thanks Again. cert No. would be handy.

1881 for ref

Name: Alice Tompson
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Charles Tompson
Mother: Mary A Tompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Keyham
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Billesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3123
Folio: 97
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Tompson 31
Mary A Tompson 21
Alice Tompson 1
Henry Tompson

Andy

this is the only birth 1879 for a alice in Northampton


Mother's Maiden Surname: 
 
THOMPSON, ALICE  ELIZABETH  
MUNNS  

GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION  Volume 03B  Page 67

Other than the 1881 already posted I can't see any other trace of the family at the moment.

Do you have any other info at all?

Andy

are you sure of mary ann's name not seeing a birth in 1860 but the birth I posted with mother name munns I found this birth in 1860

Births Mar 1860   (>99%)

MUNNS
 Mary Ann
 
 Northampton
 3b
57

Thanks for your help so far Andrew and Malyon That's all I know I will contact my friend and let her know what you gave me and get back to you tomorrow Thanks .
Could it not be Leicestershire ?? (I know nothing)

this is the only Charles born Cambridge 1850 mother's name crisp

THOMPSON, CHARLES  CRISP  
CRISP  

GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in CAMBRIDGE  Volume 14  Page 1

Sorry Malyon the names and dates seem to fit in Andrews ref above

to help me .............

more information from the 1881 Census

Name Age
Charles Tompson 31 b.ca 1850, Fen, Cambridgeshire, Railway Labourer
Mary A Tompson 21 b.ca 1860, Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire
Alice Tompson 1 b.ca 1880, Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire
Henry Tompson b. Keyham, Leicestershire <<<<< 2 months old on image



could this then be Henry in 1911?

1911 Census

Name: Henry Thompson
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
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County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 3 Frederick Place Hill Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Hull
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 28763

Henry Thompson 30
Lilian Thompson 27 b.ca 1884, Frodingham, Yorkshire
Harry Thompson 2 b.ca 1909, Hull, Yorksire
Charles Thompson Under 1/12 b. 1901, Hull

1891 (Find My Past)
Charles Thompson Head Married Male 40 1851 Dock Labourer Cambridgeshire,
Mary Ann Thompson Wife Married Female 30 1861 Pie Shop Northamptonshire, England (Burton Latimer)
Henery Thompson Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar -
William Thompson Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Alice Thompson Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Rugby, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth Thompson Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Mary Ann Thompson Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Yorkshire, England
Collier Street
Town Kingston upon Hull
Parish Holy Trinity and St Mary
City Kingston upon Hull
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Registration district Hull
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 3936
Folio 114
Page 1


(1881 Census taken 3rd April, if Henry 2 mths on it!) (1891 5th April)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(above covers Hull)

Chris :)

1871 (Find My Past)
William Iliffe Head - Male 38 1833 - Northamptonshire, England (Lab. at Iron Works)
Charlotte Iliffe Wife - Female 36 1835 - Northamptonshire, England
Mary A Iliffe Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Northamptonshire, England
John Iliffe Son - Male 10 1861 - Northamptonshire, England
Elizabeth Iliffe Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Northamptonshire, England
Ann Iliffe Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Northamptonshire, England
Susan Iliffe Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Iliffe Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Northamptonshire, England
Railway Station
Parish Burton Latimer
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Kettering
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1502
Folio 42
Page 45


Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Iliffe William Oundle 3b 457
Louth Charlotte Oundle 3b 457


Birth
ILIFF, CHARLOTTE (LOWTH)
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 163


Northamptonshire Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name ILIFFE
Birth year 1833
Death year 1893
Age 60
Burial year 1893
Burial day 19
Burial month Jun
Residence Burton Latimer
Parish BURTON LATIMER


First name(s) CHARLOTTE
Last name ILIFFE
Birth year 1836
Death year 1875
Age 39
Burial year 1875
Burial day 21
Burial month Oct
Residence Burton Latimer
Parish BURTON LATIMER

Is this where the surname comes in

THOMPSON, ELIZABETH ILIFFE Order
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181


No other births though for the same family

Could be this couple
Marriages Jun 1875
ILIFFE Mary Leicester 7a 355 Scan available -
Thompson George Leicester 7a 355

(could be Shirley, out today, so having to go!, hope something turns up, lol)

Chris :)

Possible Births- must be more than one couple:

THOMPSON, GEORGE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 296

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFF
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 419

THOMPSON, HARRY LEONARD mmn: ILIFF
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 417

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 182

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 178

THOMPSON, WILLIAM HENRY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 256

THOMPSON, ELIZABETH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181

THOMPSON, CATHERINE EDITH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in BLABY Volume 07A Page 52

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 164

THOMPSON, ANNIE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 282

THOMPSON, HANNAH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 261

THOMPSON, JOHN mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 314

THOMPSON, EMILY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289
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Also this possible marriage:
Marriages Mar 1876
Brindley Mary Burton 6b 432
Fox Thomas Burton 6b 432
Iliff Mary Ann Burton 6b 432 <<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMPSON William Burton 6b 432<<<<<<<<<<<<<

But this would appear to be this couple 1891:

Name: Mary A Thompson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Uppingham, Rutland, England
Civil Parish: Horninglow
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 2205 Folio: 76 Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thompson 50
Mary A Thompson 48
William Thompson 14
Emma Thompson 12
Harry Thompson 10
Kate Thompson 5
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So the above birth reg for Harry is not the Henry we are looking for.

Did Mary marry again?:

1901:

Name: Mary A Booth
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Frank Booth
Birth Place: Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 4500 Folio: 121 Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 58

Name Age
Frank Booth 41
Mary A Booth 42
William Thompson 14 son-in-law
Mary Ann Thompson 10 daughter-in-law
John Thompson 9 son-in-law
Emily Thompson 6 daughter-in-law
George Thompson 4 son-in-law
Florie Booth 14 daughter
Frank Booth 12 son
Ernest Booth 9 son
Fred Booth 1 son
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Marriages Sep 1901
BOOTH Frank Hull 9d 515
ELLIS Grace Hull 9d 515
Hall Thomas William Hull 9d 515
THOMPSON Mary Ann Hull 9d 515

birth:
BOOTH, ELSIE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 258
BOOTH, FREDERICK mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 270
BOOTH, FANNY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 276

Same family 1911

Name: Mary Ann Booth
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
>>>>>>>Birth Place: Wales
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
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County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 35 Lower Union St Hull
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dress In Ker
Registration district: Hull
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 28767
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Booth 51
Mary Ann Booth 50
Mary Ann Thompson 20
John Thompson 18
Emily Thompson 16
George Thompson 14
Fred Booth 11
Fanny Booth 8


Andy

This needs some serious sorting. If the Henry in 1911 posted by Sylvia is the same Henry/ Harry, then this looks to be his marriage:

Marriages Sep 1910
Moore Lilian Hull 9d 534
Thompson Harry B Hull 9d 534

and Children births:

THOMPSON, HARRY mmn: MOORE
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 282

THOMPSON, CHARLES mmn:MOORE
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289
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But I wonder if he'd been married before:

Marriages Dec 1905
GLEW Lily Hull 9d 485
McWILLIAMS Beatrice Alice Hull 9d 485
NEALE Charles Hull 9d 485 S
THOMPSON Harry Blunt Hull 9d 485

Death of first wife:
Name: Beatrice Alice Thompson
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 19
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d Page: 163

So- where does the 'Blunt' come from- could this have been Charles surname?

Did wonder the same 'Blunt' theory...

Chris :)

(Birthplace 'Fen', not giving a lot away, big area that covers Cambs. lol!)

(and looking for Mary Ann Iliffe (variants) Birth, Mother Maiden name Louth/Lowth (variants)

I wonder where George's friend got the name Charles Blunt Thompson.

George, was it from Alice's marriage?

Has Alice Birth been found?...(apologies if above somewhere!)

(1881 says Burton Latimer, 1891 says Rugby)

Chris :)

Nope- did wonder about this one:

THOMPSON, ALICE mmn:THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 59

But if George has details from certificates, maybe he can share the details. Until we know where his information has come from, it's a bit of a guessing game.

Alice might be in the index under Thompson -mmn Iliffe or under surname Iliffe, but I can imagine Iliffe could be mistranscribed quite easily!

I'm done for today- got an early start tomorrow, but I'll take a look in the afternoon.