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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Aug 2017 16:33

(well just trying to make that easier to read!)...

(although I'm not sure on reference 'dame family' and 'Wright Family Tree', and how they relate, or where this all is!) (if Cambs. think I better get the 'pill bottle' out ready, lol)

Chris :)

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I have both certificates for Henry / Harry Blunt Thompson his name on these is Harry Blunt Thompson father down as Charles Blunt Thompson

list of Charles and Mary Ann's children as follows out of a bible I have.

Alice born Oct 24th 1879/ Henry 15th Feb 1881/ John march 29th 1882/ William 8th may 1883/ William 14th april 1884/ Elizabeth 10th Aug 1885/ William 24th Dec 1886/ Charles 23rd Feb 1888/ Banner 13 June 1889/ Mary Ann 17 Jan 1891/ John 2nd Aug 1892/ Hannah Oct 12th 1893 / Emily 13th April 1895/ Hannah 12th March / George 7th July 1896 / Fred Booth 1900

also have a print out from ancestry for a Wright family tree

dame family William is at the top it's so small he is either 1810 or 22 not sure wife's name can't make out but I think she married again as next to her is Shearsmith

I think Booth hope this helps it is of use

Margy

Margy Report 3 Aug 2017 13:33

I have both certificates for Henry / Harry Blunt Thompson his name on these is Harry Blunt Thompson father down as Charles Blunt Thompson list of Charles and Mary Ann's children as follows out of a bible I have. Alice born Oct 24th 1879 /Henry 15th Feb 1881/Johnmarch 29th1882/William 8th may 1883/William 14th april1884/Elizabeth 10th Aug 1885/William24th Dec 1886/Charles 23rd Feb 1888/Banner 13 June 1889/Mary Ann 17 Jan 1891 /John 2nd Aug 1892/Hannah Oct 12th 1893 /Emily 13th April 1895/Hannah 12th March /George 7th July 1896 /Fred Booth 1900 also have a print out from ancestry for a Wright family tree dame family William is at the top it's so small he is either 1810 or 22 not sure wife's name can't make out but I think she married again as next to her is Shearsmith I think Booth hope this helps it is of use

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Aug 2017 07:41

(as said earlier, Fen a big area, Whittlesey, not far from Northants.)

(Another possible below)

Chris :)

1851 (Find My Past)
William Blunt Head Married Male 36 1815 Inn Keeper Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Alice Blunt Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
William Blunt Son - Male 11 1840 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
Thomas Blunt Son - Male 10 1841 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
George Blunt Son - Male 9 1842 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
Alice Blunt Daughter - Female 7 1844 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
Charles Blunt Son - Male 6 1845 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
Elizabeth Blunt Daughter - Female 3 1848 - March, Cambridgeshire, England
John Blunt Son - Male 2 1849 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
House name (Horse Shoes)
Parish Whittlesey
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district Whittlesey
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1765
Folio 244
Page 30


Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
BLUNT William Whittlesey 14 189
WATSON Alice Whittlesey 14 189


Birth
BLUNT, CHARLES (WATSON)
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD UNION Volume 14 Page 125


https://www.cfhs.org.uk/searchsd.cfm

(Cambridgeshire Baptisms/Burials 1801/1837)

Baptism
Subject BLUNT William
Year 1814 Relationship s. of William & Alice
Place Whittlesey, St.M

Baptism
Subject BLUNT William
Year 1814 Relationship s. of Thomas & Rebecca
Place Whittlesey, St.M

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Aug 2017 07:03

So these look to be some of the births- Just putting these for my own reference. I'm at work today, but will take a look later.

Do you have any of the children's marriage certificates or birth certificates? Where is it listed that Charles BLUNT Thompson is their father?

Births:

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 182
(died Sculcoates 1883- 4 mths old)

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 178
(died Sculcoates 1885- 9 mths old)

THOMPSON, ELIZABETH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 164

THOMPSON, HANNAH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 261
(died 1890)

THOMPSON, JOHN mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 314

THOMPSON, EMILY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Aug 2017 07:01

eh!...confusing here!...

"someone killed a policeman" (who?, Surname Blunt?, was this in Cambs?)

"William was Father of Charles" (would that be a William Blunt then?)


Taken from a Bible, are there no dates?...

Chris :)


(if Charles Death around 1900 as you say, and was Hull area, should perhaps be on below)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/

Edits (not 1891 one (Mar. qtr.) as Census taken 5th April, he is on it)

?
Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Thompson Charles 47 Hull 9d 164
Thompson Charles 43 Sculcoates 9d 116


Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1897

THOMPSON Charles 43 Drypool Hull DRY/34/395
THOMPSON Charles 47 Myton Hull MYT/147/162

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 2 Aug 2017 22:52




George Brewer replied · 6 Replies · 41 mins
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Margy Melles



Margy Melles I think it's gone through but if not a lot is correct My dad Harry Thompson born 1908 in Hull hi dad Henry Blunt Thompson born 1881 marries Beatrice McWilliam she dies he then marries Lilian Moore born north Frodingham married 1910 his farther Charles Blunt Thompson 1850 marries Mary Ann Iliffe 1860 Charles born Cambridge Mary Ann born Burton Latimer Northamptonshire children's names listed in a bible Alice\Henry \John\William\William\Elizabeth\William \Charles\Hanner\Mary Ann\John\Hannah\Emily\Hannah\George thanks everyone for your help also the death seems right 1933 maybe a marrIage may turn up soon William is Charles father don't know mother's name


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Margy

Margy Report 2 Aug 2017 22:08

Soun ds it Mary Ann's death thanks for the information and that's Mary Ann not wynn

Margy

Margy Report 2 Aug 2017 21:54

:-):-)this is what I have my dad Harry Thompson born 1908 his dadHenry \HarryBlunt Thompson born 1881 marriesLilian Moore Charles Blunt Thompson born 1850 marries Mary Ann Iliffe born 1860Burton Larimer Northamptonshire Charles born Cambridge Lilian born north Frodingham Charles dies around 1900 Mary Ann marries Frank Booth1901children Alice\Henry\William\William\Elizabeth\William\Charles\Hanner\Mary Ann\ Jhon\Hannah\EmilyHannah\George\ allThompson then some Booths I don't know if this is true and maybe linked to the Blunt name was told they had to change the name as someone killed a policeman thanks to everyone for your help hopefully will get a marrIage for Charles and Mary Wynn

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Aug 2017 07:13

Hull Daily Mail - Monday 12 January 1931

BOOTH- January 10th at 70 Osborne Street. Frank, beloved husband of Mary Ann Booth, aged 72. Interred Hedon Road Cemetery, Tuesday 1pm

Hull Daily Mail - Friday 23 June 1933

BOOTH.—In loving memory of my dear mother, Mary Ann, died June 23rd 1931; and father, died Jan. 10th, 1931.—Not forgotten. —George, Doris, and grandson.

BOOTH. —In loving memory of our dear mother, Mary Ann Booth, died June 23rd, 1931 : also our dear father, Frank, died Jan. 10th 1931. Remembered always. —From the family.
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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Aug 2017 06:27

(probably not below!, but Fen area (near Peterborough) not far from Northants. County)

Chris :)

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Charles
Last name Blunt
Gender Male
Birth year 1850
Baptism year 1858
Baptism date 1858
Baptism age 8 YEARS
Residence Coates, Cambridgeshire, England
Place Coates
County Cambridgeshire
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Blunt
Mother's first name(s) Alice


1851 (Find My Past)
James Blunt Head Married Male 31 1820 Victualer Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Alice Blunt Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Ellen Blunt Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Charles Blunt Son - Male 1 1850 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
William Speechly Wife's Brother Unmarried Male 25 1826 Cordwainer (Master) Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Fountain Servant - Female 14 1837 - Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
House name Eastrea
Parish Whittlesey
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district Whittlesey
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1765
Folio 183
Page 2


(But, him below, by looks of t!)

1871 (Find My Past)
Charles Blunt Head - Male 21 1850 - Cambridgeshire, England (Eastrea) Bricklaying Lab.)
Martha A Blunt Wife - Female 22 1849 - Cambridgeshire, England
Alice E Blunt Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Northamptonshire, England
Street Pipe Lane
Parish St John the Baptist
City Peterborough
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Peterborough
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1517
Folio 36
Page 18


Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Blunt Charles N. Witchford 3b 921
Fuller Martha Ann N. Witchford 3b 921


(that Daughter Marriage)

County Northamptonshire
Place Peterborough
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 447
Marriage date 30 Jun 1894
Groom forename William Smith
Groom surname BAKER
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode St Johns Street
Groom occupation Fitter
Bride forename Alice Elizabeth
Bride surname BLUNT
Bride age 23
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode St Marys Street
Bride occupation Servant
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname BAKER
Groom father occupation Plasterer
Bride father forename Charles
Bride father surname BLUNT
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness William SHAW
Witness Kate BAKER
Register note Witness 1 signed with his x mark

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


(thrown in also!)

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 (Ancestry)

Chas Thorman (Thomson?)
Age 21
Birth Date: abt 1849
Residence Date: 16 Jun 1870
Company: London and North Western
Description: AR series registers 1869 - 1870
(last Employer, Geo. Barker, Farmer, Mansfield, Notts.)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2017 19:30

(awaits George, lol)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Aug 2017 19:22

Nope- did wonder about this one:

THOMPSON, ALICE mmn:THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 59

But if George has details from certificates, maybe he can share the details. Until we know where his information has come from, it's a bit of a guessing game.

Alice might be in the index under Thompson -mmn Iliffe or under surname Iliffe, but I can imagine Iliffe could be mistranscribed quite easily!

I'm done for today- got an early start tomorrow, but I'll take a look in the afternoon.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2017 19:10

Has Alice Birth been found?...(apologies if above somewhere!)

(1881 says Burton Latimer, 1891 says Rugby)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Aug 2017 19:04

I wonder where George's friend got the name Charles Blunt Thompson.

George, was it from Alice's marriage?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2017 17:51

Did wonder the same 'Blunt' theory...

Chris :)

(Birthplace 'Fen', not giving a lot away, big area that covers Cambs. lol!)

(and looking for Mary Ann Iliffe (variants) Birth, Mother Maiden name Louth/Lowth (variants)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Aug 2017 09:45

This needs some serious sorting. If the Henry in 1911 posted by Sylvia is the same Henry/ Harry, then this looks to be his marriage:

Marriages Sep 1910
Moore Lilian Hull 9d 534
Thompson Harry B Hull 9d 534

and Children births:

THOMPSON, HARRY mmn: MOORE
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 282

THOMPSON, CHARLES mmn:MOORE
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289
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But I wonder if he'd been married before:

Marriages Dec 1905
GLEW Lily Hull 9d 485
McWILLIAMS Beatrice Alice Hull 9d 485
NEALE Charles Hull 9d 485 S
THOMPSON Harry Blunt Hull 9d 485

Death of first wife:
Name: Beatrice Alice Thompson
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 19
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d Page: 163

So- where does the 'Blunt' come from- could this have been Charles surname?

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Aug 2017 08:54

Same family 1911

Name: Mary Ann Booth
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
>>>>>>>Birth Place: Wales
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Search Photos: Search for 'Holy Trinity and St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 35 Lower Union St Hull
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dress In Ker
Registration district: Hull
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 28767
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Booth 51
Mary Ann Booth 50
Mary Ann Thompson 20
John Thompson 18
Emily Thompson 16
George Thompson 14
Fred Booth 11
Fanny Booth 8


Andy

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Aug 2017 08:32

Did Mary marry again?:

1901:

Name: Mary A Booth
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Frank Booth
Birth Place: Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 4500 Folio: 121 Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 58

Name Age
Frank Booth 41
Mary A Booth 42
William Thompson 14 son-in-law
Mary Ann Thompson 10 daughter-in-law
John Thompson 9 son-in-law
Emily Thompson 6 daughter-in-law
George Thompson 4 son-in-law
Florie Booth 14 daughter
Frank Booth 12 son
Ernest Booth 9 son
Fred Booth 1 son
-------------------------------------

Marriages Sep 1901
BOOTH Frank Hull 9d 515
ELLIS Grace Hull 9d 515
Hall Thomas William Hull 9d 515
THOMPSON Mary Ann Hull 9d 515

birth:
BOOTH, ELSIE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 258
BOOTH, FREDERICK mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 270
BOOTH, FANNY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 276

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Aug 2017 07:59

Possible Births- must be more than one couple:

THOMPSON, GEORGE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 296

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFF
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 419

THOMPSON, HARRY LEONARD mmn: ILIFF
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 417

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 182

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 178

THOMPSON, WILLIAM HENRY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 256

THOMPSON, ELIZABETH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 181

THOMPSON, CATHERINE EDITH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in BLABY Volume 07A Page 52

THOMPSON, WILLIAM mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 164

THOMPSON, ANNIE mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 282

THOMPSON, HANNAH mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 261

THOMPSON, JOHN mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 314

THOMPSON, EMILY mmn: ILIFFE
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 289
----------------------------------

Also this possible marriage:
Marriages Mar 1876
Brindley Mary Burton 6b 432
Fox Thomas Burton 6b 432
Iliff Mary Ann Burton 6b 432 <<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMPSON William Burton 6b 432<<<<<<<<<<<<<

But this would appear to be this couple 1891:

Name: Mary A Thompson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Uppingham, Rutland, England
Civil Parish: Horninglow
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 2205 Folio: 76 Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thompson 50
Mary A Thompson 48
William Thompson 14
Emma Thompson 12
Harry Thompson 10
Kate Thompson 5
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So the above birth reg for Harry is not the Henry we are looking for.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2017 07:02

(could be Shirley, out today, so having to go!, hope something turns up, lol)

Chris :)