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Ellen Ashbrook nee Groves born 1854

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malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 14:29

Kucinta

so jessie died same time as ellen i posted their deaths how very sad so young

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Sep 2018 14:24

Baptisms for other children of George and Ellen:

First name(s) Sarah Ann
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Female
Birth year 1872
Baptism year 1872
Baptism date 03 Nov 1872
Place Knutsford, St John the Baptist
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911

First name(s) William
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Birth year 1873
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 19 Oct 1873
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

First name(s) Margaret
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Female
Birth year 1873
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 19 Oct 1873
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Birth year 1876
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 31 Dec 1876
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911

First name(s) George
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Birth year 1876
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 31 Dec 1876
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911

First name(s) Alfred
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Birth year 1879
Baptism year 1879
Baptism date 05 Jan 1879
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Sep 2018 14:15

Baptism of Richard:

First name(s) Richard Ashbrook
Last name Gregory
Gender Male
Birth year 1880
Baptism year 1880
Baptism date 04 Apr 1880
Place Weaverham
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's last name Ashbrook<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's first name(s) Sarah<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's last name Gregory<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Image says illeg son of - next box has Sarah Gregory's name.Transcriber must have taken father's last name of Ashbrook from Richard's forenames Richard Ashbrook, as parentage isn't spelt out.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Sep 2018 14:10

Baptism of Jesse in case it hasn't been posted:

First name(s) Jessey
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Birth year 1879
Baptism year 1879
Baptism date 09 Sep 1879
Place Delamere
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Ashbrook
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

On the image the 'y' has been crossed out leaving 'Jesse'

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 13:17

margaretm you are right about the birth of richard gregory is mother maiden name

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 13:10

this is the birth or george

ASHBROOKE, GEORGE GROVES Order
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 238

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2018 13:10

Actually I think that birth is of Richard Gregory with middle name Ashbrooke denoting father's name. The Ashbrooke is not mother's maiden name.

Edit: Sorry, Flip, I see that you already explained that.

Janette

Janette Report 16 Sep 2018 13:09

thank you every one for your help

Flip

Flip Report 16 Sep 2018 13:04

Malyon his christian names on that registration were "Richard Ashbrooke", there was no mmn on the GRO index - and his surname was Gregory - so Sarah's child before she married George.

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 13:02

this looks like richards birth but mother is ashbrook could this be a brother of sarah's child married to a ashbrook sister of george


GREGORY, RICHARD ASHBROOKE - Order
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 254

Flip

Flip Report 16 Sep 2018 12:52

Janette, George was not Sarah's son - he was born 1876 with mmn confirming his mother was Ellen.

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 12:50

England and Wales Census, 1901
Name: Richard Ashbrook
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Northwich, Cheshire, England
County: Cheshire
Civil Parish: Northwich
Ecclesiastical Parish: Hartford St John
Sub-District: Weaverham
Registration District: Northwich
Residence Note: Huxley Street
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Occupation: GENERAL LABOURER
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Birthplace: Weaverham, Cheshire
Schedule Type: 41
Page Number: 8
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Ashbrook Head Male 45 Kelsall, Cheshire
Sarah Ashbrook Wife Female 40 Kelsall, Cheshire
Richard Ashbrook Son Male 21 Weaverham, Cheshire
Mary Jane Ashbrook Daughter Female 19 Gorstage, Cheshire
Emma Ashbrook Daughter Female 15 Gorstage, Cheshire
John Ashbrook Son Male 13 Gorstage, Cheshire
Nellie Ashbrook Daughter Female 11 Delamere, Cheshire
Thomas Ashbrook Son Male 4 Northwich, Cheshire
Annie Ashbrook Daughter Female 2 Northwich, Cheshire

Janette

Janette Report 16 Sep 2018 12:41

HI I think it might be ellen died in 1879 giving birth to jesse who died in 1879. and the two boys George and Richard on the 1881 census was the sons of Sarah the second wife of George Ashbrook who he married in 1880 what do you think thanks

Flip

Flip Report 16 Sep 2018 12:38

Kath, I agree he put the months against the wrong child. George was born in 1876 with mmn Groves confirming this.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2018 12:30

Also if Ellen died late 1879 and little Richard was born early 1880 it would appear that he was conceived before Ellen died.

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2018 12:17

there was a birth in 1879 could it be ellen died giving birth the child died too

Deaths Sep 1879 (>99%)
Ashbrooke Ellen 26 Northwich 8a 134
Ashbrooke Jesse 0 Northwich 8a 135

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Sep 2018 12:17

But there is a 5 month old son as well Flip??? George Ashbrook, son, age 5 months. Unless the enumerator put the "months" above the wrong entry and George is 5 years rather than 5 months.

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2018 12:15

That makes sense, Flip.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2018 12:13

They're in Weaverham, Cheshire in 1881, Kath. Address looks like Gorstage? Green.

Flip

Flip Report 16 Sep 2018 12:12

I think the 1881 census posted by Margaret was worng with Richard's age - I think he was 13 months rather than years - later census would indicate a birth year of 1880. I think this is his birth before the parents marriage:


Births Mar 1880 (>99%)

Gregory Richard Ashbrooke Northwich 8a 254 Scan available - click to view