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Back again...I know Reg but as I have been trying to find her for a while thought if I checked out the rest of the Goulden lines then I might be able to eliminate the could be`s.Had a good look and the John Goulden in 1851 is not the same one in 1841 so that is another line of the Goulden family.Thanks for trying anyway,very kind of you.Wanda.x

No.........nothing. I've checked JFM 1892 to JFM 1893, and there is no Mary Ellen Goulden registered. The snag is, that until you can find out where she was born, you can't really hope to work backwards tracing her antecedents............. Reg

Oh Reg so sorry but will have to go or divorce on the records.Back tmoz And thank you.Wanda.x

She was 21 a spinster and married 21/03/1914.Witnesses were Joseph Sheen and Francis J McDonall.......Wanda.x

So the odds are that she was born in 1892.........nothing for that year on the transcribed records.........I'll have a quick look at the images........ Reg

Mmmmm........suspected as much. I don't suppose the father was a witness, by any chance? In which month did the marriage occur? And how old was the bride? Reg

Oh Reg thank you..Thought I was blind-deaf and dumb! for a mo there.Yes it is off her marraige cert.She married a Thomas Mitchell in 1914 and fathers name was John Goulden-hawker.As I had no luck finding out her birth,thought it might be best to see if I could work out the family history as their names repeat and through the Gouldens history.I thought that if I tied up them up into family groups then I might get a little closer to finding her.Have done really well on the census`s but a lot of mystery and I dont know why for all of them in 1881.Perhaps miss-spellings...Thanks for coming back Reg as I know if you cant solve it then I dont stand much of a chance.Wanda.x

Wanda Had to pack up last night....too tired to think! Can you tell me where you got the info that Mary Ellen's father was John? Reg

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Back with this thread.Found some bits out but am thrown with the 1841 census.Would someone please just look and confirm what I think that Martha and Ann who is really William could be the grandparents.So if Elizabeth and William on the 1851 census are the parents where are they on the 1841 census.Any help appreciated.Thank you.Wanda.x

Hi Reg, hope you havnt given up on me.Will be back tomorrow night.In the meantime will try and sort out a few of the census`s and link them up as Hindley is a small place so they must all be related near enough in some way.Thanks for helping.Wanda.x

What Im trying to do is find all the family members and where hey bramched off to and then perhaps work out the children that John Goulden has later on.Cant find them listed as his children so thought they could perhaps be his relations but not put down as such.At the moment anything could be right..Wanda.x

I will start at the beggining...Looked for Mary Ellen Goulden dob abt 1893 with fathers name of John on 1901 census.The only one near enough to be her was Mary Ellen Golden with father John Golden dob 1859 born Chorlton.Had no luck with either of them and family members listed so thought I would try to work from the 1859 dob.Looked at 1891 census and the next one that came near was John Goulden 1859.I matched the 1901 and 1891 census by the next door neighbour called Mary Quinn.When I looked back at census`s the nearest I could find as John`s father was Thomas Goulden dob abt 1833 and so went from there...but in 1861 census Thomas is now called Goulding but in 1871 becomes Goulden again...so you see how Im fixed on this??Wanda.x

No rush...take your time............. Reg

You will have to excuse me Reg but I cant read and type as fast as your answers come...Have an eye disease so find it difficult to read...Wish this lot didnt change their name either..Goulden,Golden,Goulding Gouldin, and then all are called sarah,john,Thomas etc..Bear with me while I look.Thanks ever so much.Wanda.x

Perhaps it would be a good idea to tell us what you know for certain about John. You've got his name etc from somewhere......... Reg

No idea as yet to whether John married.Started out trying to find John Goulden born 1859 Manchester.Had no luck so thought I would work backwards and see if I could connect alll the Johns etc that were throwing me.In other words eliminate the uncles Johns etc they named.Wanda.x

The name is written as Wm.....but with the 'm' at the top of the 'w', and the Ancestry transcriber has misread the name as Ann........... He is listed first, so must be head of the household, presumably married to Martha............ Reg

More confused Reg..How is Ann..William as dates dont match? Ann? is 65 in 1841..Help me out here please.Wanda.x

Did John marry? If so, the cert will clarify things, at least with regard to who his father was............ Reg