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Hi Ann, Thanks,it was just a long shot.I am trying to track down the parents of Charles Mills b 1816 in Freethorpe. Many thanks Rodney

Russell William Butlin head M 39 M Railroad lab born Weedon Nth Ann Butlin wife M 38 F born Wellidon Nth Sophia Butlin daur 17 F born Wellidon Nth Lucy Butlin daur 11 F born Leamington War Robert Butlin son 5 M sh born Leamington War Esther Butlin daur 2 F born Leamington War address 16 Printer Street census Place Leamington prior Warwickshire#HO/107/2072 Folio 281 page 13 I assume the 'sh' against robert signifies scholar but i don't really know. Hope this helps your research Ann Glos

Rodney No Mills Charles or otherwise in Freethorpe in 1851. No Charles Mills born freethorpe on census. Sorry Ann Glos

Hi Ann I am looking for my ancestor William BUTLIN in Warwickshire he would be about 24 in 1851 born Northamptonshire. Many Thanks Russell

Hi My name is Rodney Mills My GG Grandfather was born in Freethorpe Norfolk in 1816. Is it possible for you to tell me if any of the mills family were there in 1851. His name was Charles. Thanks

Gaynor Joseph Jenkins head M 24 M Ag lab born Wootton War Mary E Jenkins wife 23 F born Harbury War Mary A Jenkins daur 3 F born Kenilworth War James Jenkins son 1 M born Wootton War address Wootton Village census place Ashow Leek Wootton & Guys Cliff War HO/107/2073 folio 10 page 12 Ann Glos

Hi Anne, Thanks so much - would you kindly look up James Jenkins b. 1850 in Leek Wootton, Warwick - need to know his parents. Regards Gaynor

Thank you Ann. Am away this weekend so please could you email me -don't want to lose the thread! Beginning to wonder if William and Thomas were cousins, not brothers. Strange thing is that they all married in Hull and had homes in Brixham and Hull!! On IGI says Mary came from Hull. Think they must all have been born on board fishing boats between the two places, although births always registered in Totnes for Brixham but marriages took place in Hull!! I live in Brixham, believe it or not, and this is the first connection my rellies have with Devon. They all came from Hull!! Small world. Will go to the museum over Easter and see what I can rake up from records there -handy!! Thanks again. Jackie

Jackie, I will have another look tomorrow for another William. I do have one, although he is said on the censud to be 15, the same age as Thomas. William Bray head M 40 M fisherman born brixham Mary Bray wife M 39 F born Brixham William bray son 15 M fisherman born Brixham Joseph Bray son 13 M fisherman born brixham Mary J Bray daur 1 F born brixham address Higher Street census Place Brixham Totnes devonshire HO/107/1873 folio 339 page 30 big gap between the last two children. All the Brays I have given you live in higher street have you noticed? Must have been Fishermens' cottages do you think? Ann Glos

Hi Anne Thank you so much. yes -this is Thomas in 1851. The Cornishes who he was apprenticed to are a huge Brixham family and still in Brixham today. The William I'm after was a year or two older than Thomas, also born Brixham. Is there an entry for him? I believe that he may have been Thomas's brother as he ended up in Hull in 1991 with Thomas's son. I can't be more precise about his year of birth as there is no entry in the parish records. Many thanks Jackie

Oh Ann that's lovely thank you . William and eliza had 10 children in all. Interesting that Harriet BALLS is there - Sidney PULHAM marries her. Thank you again Ann : ) Much happiness Debi

Debbi This is what I found ( a marathon this) William Pulham head M 36 M Grocer born Wingfield Suf Eliza Pulham wife M 29 F b Norwich William Pulham son 7 M scholar b Norwich Eliza Pulham daur 5 F scholar b Norwich Rebecca Pulham daur 4 F scholar Norwich Thomas Pulham son 4m M b Norwich Robert Pulham Bro U 23 M Tallow chandler b wingfield Suf Sidney Pulham Bro U 21 M Assistant b Wingfield Suf Harriot Balls (no relationship mentioned) U 17 F Nusemaid b Forncet Nfk William Patrick Vist 11 M errand boy b Wingfield Suf Eliza Scott (no relationship) U 23 F Housemaid b Suf Address St Mary's Plain Norwich Census place Norwich St Mary Coslany Norwich Norfolk HO/107/1812 folio 232 page 11 Did you know all thse existed? Exciting if you didn't - a good haul!!! Ann Glos

Jackie I have found: William C bray head W 70 M Shoemaker for master born Brixham Devon address Higher St Census place Brixham Totnes Devon HO/107/1873 folio 337 page 26 William Cornish head M 45 M Fisherman b Brixham Elizabeth Cornish wife M 45 F b Brixham William cornish son U 17 Fissherman b Brixham James Cornish som U 16 M Fisherman b Brixham mary j Cornish daur 10 f scholar b Brixham John s Cornish son 7 M scholar b Brixham Elizabeth Cornish daur 5 F Scholar b Brixham Thomas Cornish son 3 M scholar b Brixham Thomas Bray appr 15 M Fisherman App b Brixham Charles Austen Appr 16 M Fisherman's App b London mddx Address Higher St census place Brixham totnes Devonshire HO/107/1873 folio 336 page 25 there are other Brays born Brixham and fishermen. do you have any others? I assume the William you wanted was born 1788 not 1888? It wasn't exactly clear who you were looking for so if I have misread it - sorry, ask me again. Ann Glos

Thanks Ann. No worry! Jackie

Hi Ann Please could I take advantage of your kind offer for a search on William Whitlam PULHAM b 1843 Norwich Norfolk - parents from suffolk and called William and Eliza. Thank you very much in advance : ) Much happiness Debi

Jackie, I am out this am but will do your look up after lunch and let you know then Ann Glos

Hello Ann Thank you so much for your kind offer. Please could you look up on the Devon census the family of Thomas Bray b 1834 Brixham, Devon. He was a fisherman. I am also looking for William Bray 1883 Brixham, also a fisherman and probably his brother. According to tradition father would also have been a fisherman!!! William Bray was on board the Xantho in 1881 and Thomas's son was born on the Splendid in 1853. There is a possibility that the family were all sea therefore, during the 1851 census as fishermen did take their wives and families with them. Worth looking to check if they were in port. Many thanks Jackie

Ann thank you - for some reason Tivetshall is tinkling bells with me - but i can't think why Zoe

Zoe William Watson head M 42 M carpenter born Worstead Nfk Hannah Watson Wife M 43 F b Marylebone Mddsx Elizabeth Watson daur U 19 F b Buxton nfk harriet watson daur 13 F scholar b Mundsley Nfk george Watson son 10 M scholar b Mundsley Nfk Charles watson son 7 M scholar b Mundsley Nfk Hannah Watson daur 2 F b Mundsley Nfk address Stars Yard Erpingham Norfolk census place Mundsley Erpingham Norfolk HO/107/1809 folio 212 page 10 Richard Watson head M 32 F (sic) shoemaker b Tivetshall Nfk Charlotte Watson wife M 29 f b tivetshall nfk Maryann Watson daur 7 F b Pulham Nfk Willm Watson son 6 M b Pulham Nfk John Watson son 4 M b Pulham Nfk Hannah Watson daur 2 F b Tivetshall Nfk address Depwade census place Tivetshall St Mary Depwade Norfolk HO/107/1821 folio 463 page 7

Ann Have emailed you saying thanks but wanted to post a GREAT BIG THANK YOU on the board as well, these are my people and lots of new information for me to work on. Thanks again Ann