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Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:23

Can anyone please help to find Elizabeth Robinson.Born Bromley Mddx about 1867
She is in the 1891 census living with her family at 15 Crescent Rd Northside East Ham .

I can find no trace of her before or since.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Oct 2007 10:30

Is Robinson her birth name?

Reg

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:31

Reg. Yes it is

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 18 Oct 2007 10:31

Is this her in 1881?

Name: Eliz. Robinson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Gender: Female
Where born: Bromley

Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 38 Cadogan Pl
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Domestic Servant

Registration district: Chelsea


Athena

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:33

Thank you, but I don't think so.
She would have been 14 yrs in 1881

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Oct 2007 10:34

Can you give the details of the 1891 census, as I can't find her at the address you give? I can only find one born Bromley living in West Ham.

Kath. x

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 18 Oct 2007 10:35


But they sometimes lied about their ages in order to get employment, or often the employer guessed at the age of staff.

You'll see that she has the same occ as in 1891, too.

Athena

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:36

1891 census Father Thomas Henry
Mother Hannah living at 13 Barnby St., West ham.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Oct 2007 10:37

Thanks Margaret, but that's not the address you give in your first post.

Kath. x

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:38

Athena.
I never thought of that. What occ. did she have?
Margaret

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:39

Kath.
Sorry Senior moment
Margaret

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Oct 2007 10:39

She is down as Elizabeth E Robinson in 1891

Reg

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:41

Athena, Sorry another senior moment. I see she was a domestic servant.
Margaret

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Oct 2007 10:42

This is all very, very familiar............ I seem to recall that Thomas wasn't her father..............

Reg

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:43

Reg. Yes .
But I can't understand why she isn't in any other census.
She is a great deal older than her siblings.
Margaret

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Oct 2007 10:44

Looking at the 1891 census, there is a 10 year gap between Elizabeth and the next sibling. Could Hannah be Thomas's second wife, in which case there would be a different mother in earlier census years?

Kath. x

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 18 Oct 2007 10:44

Margaret - she was a domestic servant. Not an unusual occ for a young girl but I wouldn't dismiss that 1881 entry just yet. Another thought is that her age of 24 yrs in 1891 might not be 100% correct either!

Would be helpful if we could find her actual birth record, or find the family in 1871.

Athena

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:45

Reg, Yes I am back on the old trail again after a long lapse.!!
Margaret

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 18 Oct 2007 10:47

Sorry, Margaret - could you give a recap of what has already been covered in the past so that we don't end up duplicating info you already have.

I'm confused - if Thomas wasn't her father then how is it that Robinson was her birthname? Do you know who her real father was? And I take it Hannah was not her mother either?

Athena

Margaret

Margaret Report 18 Oct 2007 10:49

Kath,
I don't think that is the case as I have the marriage cert of Thomas and Hannah.
Two years after Elizabeth there was another daughter Mary Ann born in Clitheroe lancs.Then a gap of 7 years before the next lot.
I can't trace Thomas for that 7 years.
have even checked the prison records!!!