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Just to explain it all the way -- until 1911, the names of brides and grooms weren't connected when they were entered in the index.

Each page usually has four names -- two brides, two grooms. If you know which ones you're looking for, you ignore the other two. That's your case here.

If you only know one name, then the only way to be sure which person that person married is to order the certificate in the name you do know. You can be pretty certain, though, if you can find that person in the next census or two and deduce from the spouse's name which one s/he is in the marriage record.

What the marriage certificate will get you is Bertha's father's name.


There's someone here (a distant cousin of my own -- we share English ancestors, with my branch having come to Canada, and he also has French ancestors) who might be able to give you a few pointers on French genealogy for Anglos. I'll send you a message to tell you how to get in touch.

Thank you soooo much. Thats definately her!! Sorry to be a numb-numb but what or who are FORWARD Amy Wandsworth and FOWLER Henry Thomas Wandsworth ?? you mentioned them when you mentioned Berthas marriage. Sorry, I feel I should know but aplogise for my lack of knowldge on these matters. Would love to hear back from you. Many thanks, Regards, Vicky

1891 England Census
about Bertha Webb
Name: Bertha Webb
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James J
Gender: Female
Where born: France

Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Webb 14
Arthur Webb 12
Bertha Webb 42
Eleanor Webb 9
Florrie Webb 2
James J Webb 56
Wolf Webb 7


1881 England Census
about Bertha Webb
Name: Bertha Webb
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Paris (B S)

Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 115 Battersea Pk Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 67b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Webb 10
Annie Webb 4
Arthur Webb 2
Bertha Webb 33
James Webb 46
James Webb 8
Rosenia Webb 12
Violet Webb 11

This might help with tracing your French connection:

http://genealogy.about.com/od/france/a/french_ancestry.htm

Could this be their marriage?

Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
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Ballon Bertha Clara Wandsworth 1d 728
FORWARD Amy Wandsworth 1d 728
FOWLER Henry Thomas Wandsworth 1d 728
Webb Jacob Sahler Wandsworth 1d 728

Hi, new to all this family tree business! very excited to have found a cousin in Canada I didnt know I had! One name that has me stumped is my Great Gran, Bertha Ballon, I know she was born in Paris in c1850 and she married James Webb and they had Annie, Arthur, Eleanor, Wolf and Florence here in the UK. Any tips on tracking french rellies. Would appreciate the help, Regards, Vicky