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Can anyone find Amy R Whitby - lodger, aged 9?

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Barbara

Barbara Report 14 Nov 2007 17:52

I have found Amy R Whitby lodging, aged 9 with the Newton family in Liverpool in 1881. I believe she was born in Liverpool in 1872, the illegitimate daughter of Rebecca Whitby. She then disappears until 1897 when I think she married Michael Tait.
What happened to Amy R between 1881 and 1897. Where was her mother and what is the connection, if any to the Newtons?
Anybody fancy a challenge!
Barbara

Penny

Penny Report 14 Nov 2007 18:42

chances are, she may be with her mum, who may well have married

Germaine

Germaine Report 14 Nov 2007 19:04

Can't find Rebecca in 1871 so could have married or died but this could be her in 1861.
Might help to get Amys birth cert.
Germaine
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Rebecca Whitby
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Saltley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 14 Nov 2007 19:21

Amy could be 'Boarded out' under Poor Law Regulations. If children were orphans they could be boarded out with a family rather than go in a workhouse. Also I see that the family she was with in 1881 that the wife Eliza Newton's occupation was
'Registry Office for Servants' (Instit). Perhaps she knew Amy's mother and took pity on her?
I have a great aunt who was boarded out in 1901 from Lincolnshire to Southampton.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2007 19:39

If Germaine found Rebecca in 1861, this might be her in 1891:

Name: Rebecca Whitby
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Oxford, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Poulton Cum Spittle
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Bebington
Town: Poulton Cum Spittle
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Oaklands

Occupation: Cook

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Wirral
Sub-registration district: Eastham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Manisty 47
Eliza M Manisty 38
Henry S Manisty 5
Edward K Manisty 1/12
Rebecca Whitby 51
Mary Allaway 57
Lizzie H Chesters 20
Lydia Doubtfire 19
Mabel F Gunning 11


There is an Oxton in Cheshire.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2007 19:58

Is this her in 1881?

Name: Rebeckah Whitby
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Holford, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Kirkoswald
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: College
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Occupation: Housekeeper (Domestic)

Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Kirkoswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A. Cairns 28
William Cairns 26
William Cottrell 27
Margaret Davidson 18
Austin Fitzpatrick 24
Betsy Glenallan 36
Isabella Livingston 38
Rebeckah Sowerby 16
Mary Varty 60
Rebeckah Whitby 40

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2007 20:08

Perhaps ....

Deaths Sep 1898
Whitby Rebecca 56 Chorlton 8c 627

June

June Report 14 Nov 2007 23:20

1881
Name: Evan Newton
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanarnon, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 50 Rupert Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Weight Taker (Weigher)

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Haworth 23
Eliza Newton 60
Evan Newton 54
George J. Newton 17
Isaac Newton 21
Amy R. Whitby 9
David Williams 38




Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Newton Evan Liverpool 8b 68
Roberts Eliza Liverpool 8b 68







1871
Name: Evan Newton
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Newton 41
Evan Newton 44
George J Newton 7
Isaac Newton 11





1871
Name: Eliza Roberts
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wales

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:Rupert Lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:widow

Disability: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Cartwright 2
John Griffiths 17
John Huges 28
Matthew Jones 73
Eliza Roberts 53
Sarah Rycroft 17


same address as 1881




1861
Name: Eliza Roberts
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanbedr, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick J Clay 12
John Clay 48
Eliza Roberts 44
Thomas Roberts 50
Sarah Rycroft 7



Evan Newton lives next door with wife

June x

June

June Report 14 Nov 2007 23:31

1891
Name: Evan Newton
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanarmon, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Newton 29
Evan Newton 64
George J Newton 3
Herbert C Newton 1
Isaac Newton 31
Sarah J Newton 19
William E Newton 6
David Williams 48



She is not with the Newton Family


June x

June

June Report 15 Nov 2007 08:39

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download

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AMY REBECCA WHITBY
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 JAN 1872 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: REBECCA WHITBY




June x

Barbara

Barbara Report 15 Nov 2007 12:59

Thanks to everyone for all the interest and the great response.
Germaine, the 1861 entry sounds the most likely as the Newtons were living in Everton as well.
Rutland Belle , thanks for Eliza Newton's occupation - I didn't see that.Do you think Rebecca would have called herself a widow to conceal her illegitimate child?
Nice to see you may have found the original Ms Doubtfire!
Ozibird, the 1881 entry is a good possibility.
June, thank you for all the work you put in.If Evan was married to Ann in 1871 then I presume Eliza is his second wife and not the mother of the children. What a can of worms. Wonder whose house they moved into?
Once again thanks for all the help. I hope Amy R did marry Michael Tait and live happily ever after.
Perhaps need to see if she appears on the 1901 census as 'Amy R Tait'.
Cheers
Barbara

June

June Report 15 Nov 2007 19:55

1901
Name: Amy R Tait
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members: Name Age
Amy C Tait 3 daughter
Amy R Tait 29
Barbara Tait 11 Daughter / age 1 on image
Michael Tait 26



June x

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 Nov 2007 13:19

Thank you so much June. So she did have a happy ending after all - or so we can hope!
Many thanks again
Best wishes
Barbara