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Sheila

Sheila Report 15 Nov 2007 10:48

Hi,
Have been having difficulty in trying to trace my great aunts family. Her name was Annie Wilson and she married a Tom Abbey. Those were the only details I had.Annie was born in Hull c1868, Tom also c1867.
He was a blacksmith. Whilst trying to find out anything, all I discovered after many months was a birth GRO 9d 146. I then tried marriages and very strangely found one for a Thomas R Abbey Dec 1888 9d323 so I thought I was onto a winner until I found Annie's marriage GRO as Sep 1888 GRO 9d 253.
I am confused. Could there have been a mistake or have I got it wrong although after searching that was all I could come up with.
I have found nothing on the census either but would dearly love to know if their was any family.
They were both Hull born.

Many thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 15 Nov 2007 11:35

1891 census could this be them? I see this Annie was born in Ely
Name: Thomas R Abbey ---blacksmith's striker
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Name: Annie Abbey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas R
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Name: Charles Abbey
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas R
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, Eng

jansmith

jansmith Report 15 Nov 2007 11:37

Looks like marriage index for this couple
Name: Thomas Richard Abbey /
Year of Registration: 1888 Annie Berridge
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 323

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Nov 2007 11:39

This entry fits names, place of birth and Tom is a Blacksmith. Dates of birth are wrong


1901 England Census
about Thomas Richard Abbey
Name: Thomas Richard Abbey
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: Sculcoates St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Abbey 40
Charles Abbey 12
Louisa Abbey 7
Thomas Richard Abbey 41


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4493; Folio: 53; Page: 1.


Andy


Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Nov 2007 11:42

If the marriage is right, then this will be Annie 1871


1871 England Census
about Annie Berridge
Name: Annie Berridge
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Ely Holy Trinity
Town: Stuntney
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ely
Sub-registration district: Ely
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Berridge 45
Annie Berridge 10
Charles Berridge 50
Emma Berridge 18
William Berridge 24
Charles Edwards 23
William Henry Saunders


Andy


jansmith

jansmith Report 15 Nov 2007 11:43

The Annie marriage index you have gives these names on samre page
Maria Elizabeth Obridge

Frederick Smith and Robert Henry Whinham

Sheila

Sheila Report 16 Nov 2007 09:17

Hi,
Thanks for all your research. That was the only Abbey I could find as well but My Annie definately came from Hull (unless someone is telling porkies!)
The only other piece of info I have of them is that they lived next door or near to Annie's sister Alice who was married to Fred Bray. They live down Goodrick Terrace, Cave street, Hull.

Many thanks for your help

Sheila

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Nov 2007 10:01

Do you know when Fred married?

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Nov 2007 10:04

looking promising! 1871
Name: Annie Wilson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Name: Alice Wilson
Age: 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
Name: Ellen Wilson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Name: Thomas Wilson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Nov 2007 10:12

looks like the marriage index for Annie you found has her married to Frederick Smith in 1891 census

Name: Frederick Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Name: Annie Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Frederick
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Yorkshire

Sheila

Sheila Report 16 Nov 2007 13:48

Hi,Many thanks for all your research, it is a mystery.I have very few details except Annie's sister Alice b1871 married Fred Bray b1873. Their first child was born in 1899 (Winifred) so could have married anytime before then. Does this help at all with Annie Wilson and Tom Abbey? I'm sorry for putting you to all this trouble but I am truly grateful. I have the relevant census' whilst they are growing up but no spouse details

Many thanks

Sheila

jansmith

jansmith Report 16 Nov 2007 13:55

Could this be Freds marriage index
Name: Fred Bray
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hull (1854 Onw)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 547
There are others on the page as well as
Alice Wilson
I have found them in 1901 but cannot find Annie near them

Sheila

Sheila Report 16 Nov 2007 13:58

Hi,
Yes that is Fred's, thinking about it I think I have found that earlier - SORRY

Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 Nov 2007 09:50

Hi,
In the 1871 census Annie was 5, in the 1881 census she was 13 but not listed in 1891 census.
I think her life with Tom are going to remain a mystery like her brother Frank who I cannot find any trace of either. On the 1891 census where Annie is missing there appears an Ada who no-one knows anything about. As far as we know Thomas Wilson and Ellen Ringrose only had 5 children! We're obviously a very mysterious family!

Thanks again for your time

Sheila