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Can anyone help

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Nov 2007 04:50

No luck with Bertha Louisa Smith having anything to do with Devon at all, sorry.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Nov 2007 04:45

I'm no good on Australian stuff except for the NSW BMDs on line, so you're on your own there!

Duh, it *was* NSW. So this certificate should get you info about her:

2895/1907
BIRD ROBERT C
SCHAPIRA ELIZABETH J
WOOLLAHRA


But the birth cert as above would get you more.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Nov 2007 04:41

Can you provide your grandfather's name? Date/place of their marriage? The marriage certificate should give her father's name as well, and might give an indication of where she was living at the time of the marriage.

There are a couple of possibilities:

Name: Elisabeth Amalia Schapira
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Giles
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 1131

+ William Frederick Carr-Hill or Arthur Robertson. Somewhat confusing, as that bride also seems to have been recorded as Ely Schapira.


Name: Lizzie Schapira
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 868

+ Lewis Perkins or Henry Harris.

Or maybe:

Name: Julia Shapiro
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Whitechapel
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 503

+ Jacob W Goldstein or Benjamin Isaacs, if she'd adjusted her surname a little.

Aha. I should have asked first. None of them her. ;)

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 18 Nov 2007 04:41

Have just seen your added note. I don't know. All I do know is that at some time the family or maybe just her, must have emigrated to Australia where she met and married my grandfather Robert Chisholm Bird in 1907 in New South Wales.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 18 Nov 2007 04:37

Thanks Kathryn. Am also looking for birth details of Bertha Louisa Smith born in 1853 I believe in Bideford, Devon. Can you help?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Nov 2007 04:30

Here she is:


Name: Elizabeth Julia Shapira
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hampstead
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 627


The spelling error is in the original, so you can just go ahead and order it with that info as is.


Adding:

Where she got to after that is a mystery! Virtually all the Shapira / Schapira-s in 1901, for instance, are shown as born in Austria or Russia.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 18 Nov 2007 04:26

My grandmother Elizabeth Julia Schapira was born in Hampstead, London in 1878. Cant find any record which will give me names of parents, siblings, etc. Can anyone help