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Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 19:58
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Hi Angie Good luck with the death certificate and all the rest of the research, it has been very interesting. Gail. x
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	Small blonde Angel	Report	1 Dec 2007 02:15
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	And I am totally impressed, I was tearing my hair out looking for Caroline Drake and finding nothing, Joseph Gunson died in 1/4 to March 1870 but I think that she was already living with my great grandfather at the time. They had a daughter Alice who was born 1/4 to Dec 1869 and registered as Alice Idle Gunson. But as like you I can find no trace of a Caroline Drake I thought that the marriage certificate had just made things worse. I can't thank you all enough for all your help, I think that I will send for Joseph Gunson's death certificate to see who reported his death. Angie
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:38
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	No I am kind of Poirot's build................lol Gail.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:34
	So Gail, are you Poirot and I'm Miss Marple or should it be t'other way round!
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:33
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Wow....wrapped it up like a christmas present...... Gail.
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:32
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Ah! good find. Looking a distinct possiblity then. Gail.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:32
	AND: Henry Fox married Sarah Hall 3 Dec.1827, Thornhill by Dewsbury.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:30
	From IGI: Caroline Fox christened 6 Mar.1831 Amelia Fox christened 7 Jun.1829 Both in Thornhill by Dewsbury, Yorks. with parents Henry & Sarah.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:22
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	I am wondering, there are other George Drakes marrying other Sarah's on the IGI in Yorkshire but I ignored them to make the facts fit......lol Where do the Halls come into it....?? Gail.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:21
	By George, Gail! I think you've got it! Do you suppose that Caroline is a daughter of Sarah Fox by a previous marriage and George Drake is her step-father?
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:19
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Caroline Fox says on two census returns that she is born in Thornhill, she has a Hall with her on 1841 and there is a George Drake who may have married a Sarah Fox who has a Hall with them...... I know I'm trying to make the facts fit......lol Gail
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:16
	I'm getting nowhere fast! On the 41 census there's a Caroline Fox age 10 with Amelia Fox 12 living with Elizabeth Hale 65 in Thornhill. The only Caroline Drake is only 4, father is William and they're in Barnsley, Yorks. Margaret
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:16
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	I wonder............. 1841 census George Drake Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Thornhill Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Thornhill George Drake 25 Helen Drake 3 Joseph Drake 1 Sarah Drake 30 Thomas Drake 5 Amelia Hall 12 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1270; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Thornhill; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 51; Page: 11; Line: 21; GSU roll: 464241. IGI marriage GEORGE DRAKE SARAH FOX Marriage: 27 JUL 1835 Birstall, Yorkshire, 1841 for Caroline Fox Caroline Fox Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Thornhill Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Thornhill Amelia Fox 12 Caroline Fox 10 Elizabeth Hall 65 Gail
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 01:08
	The only marriage I can find is Caroline Fox who married Joseph Gunson 1852, Wakefield, but according to the 51 census she was born Thornhill.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 00:58
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Hi Margaret, that is the census that I could not find...but the marriage seems to be to a Caroline Fox, unless you can see another one with a fresh pair of eyes. Gail.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	1 Dec 2007 00:52
	The 1861 census has a Caroline Gimson but the original looks like Gunson to me. She's the wife of Joseph, was born 1832, Dewsbury, Yorks. and is living in Whitfield, Glossop, Derbyshire. Hubby was born 1819 Dewsbury.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	imp	Report	1 Dec 2007 00:37
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 1,594 Send Message	Hi Angela Thank you for letting us know, that should help you to track her down now....at least you know she did not start out a Gunson. Hope you had a good time.. Gail. x
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	Small blonde Angel	Report	1 Dec 2007 00:29
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	Hi Gail Rose, I got the marriage certificate, and Caroline is listed as a widow father's name George Drake, I have jsut got back from nice and have not had chance to check anything yet, I will now, but just thought you might like to know. Angie
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	Small blonde Angel	Report	24 Nov 2007 18:48
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 570 Send Message	hi Rose, no I am becoming more amd more convinced that Gunson was not her maiden name. I have sent for the marriage certificate as this should help me. I may have been down a blind alley for a while thinking that she was born Caroline Gunson. I cannot find her in the 1861 census at all or the person I think she may have married first, Joseph Gunson, I have checked FreeBMD for all Gunson events and become even more confused, but hopefully I will be able to update you all as I get updated myself.. Angela
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	24 Nov 2007 03:57
	Are you sure Gunson is her maiden name? She's old enough to have been married before. Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!

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