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Zoe
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27 Nov 2007 20:28 |
Hi All
Sorry to pester with another message.
Since my message on the Trying to Find forum, I am still looking to find out about George Agar born 1891-1893 possibly in Essex. Had no luck following the possibilities that people suggested yet, but am still trying :o). However:
Have found George Agar in the BMD index born Sept 1891 in Braintree. However, I can't find the same person in the 1901 census - nowhere remotely close Braintree anyway :o$. Not sure that I'm looking right and wondered if anyone can help me find him.
Many thanks
Zoe
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ErikaH
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27 Nov 2007 22:37 |
What else do you know about him?
Did he marry? If so, whom? And when?
The cert would tell you his age....plus the name and occupation of his father. That info should make finding him in 1901 much easier.......and more accurate.
If this is all duplicating advice on the other board, please excuse me.......I haven't seen the other thread.
Reg
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GlitterBaby
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27 Nov 2007 23:31 |
1901 How do you know it is not this one ?
Name: George Ager Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry J Mother's Name: Emma L Gender: Male Where born: Chigwell, Essex, England Civil Parish: Stifford Ecclesiastical parish: Stifford St Mary Town: Stifford County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Orsett Sub-registration district: Grays ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Ager 6 Emma L Ager 39 Ethel M Ager 12 George Ager 10 Henry J Ager 40 John Ager 8 William J Ager 14 Edward J Gurnett 21
No rule this one out as this birth matches Births Sep 1890 (>99%) Ager George Epping 4a 314
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Ozibird
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27 Nov 2007 23:35 |
It's on TTF under this title -
Stuck - Anyone kind enough to help?
It's worth looking at as quite a few leads have been tried.
Ozi.
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Ozibird
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27 Nov 2007 23:43 |
1901: Name: George Wager Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Kate Gender: Male Where born: Kelvedon, Essex, England Civil parish: Kelvedon Ecclesiastical parish: Kelvedon St Mary County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: High Street
Occupation:
Registration district: Braintree Sub-registration district: Coggeshall ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 98 Household Members: Name Age William Wager 37 Beerhouse keeper & dealer Kate Wager 29 Laura Wager 11 George Wager 9 Fred Wager 7 Albert John Wager 5 Arthur William Wager 3 Henry Harold Wager 1
All born Kelvedon, check reg'n district above.
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Ozibird
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27 Nov 2007 23:49 |
Maybe NOT!
1891: Name: Kate Wager Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Messing, Essex, England Civil parish: Kelvedon County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Braintree Sub-registration district: Kelvedon ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Wager 30 Kate Wager 26 Louisa Wager 2 John Wilkins 64 John Cowles 62
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Zoe
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29 Nov 2007 19:48 |
Dear Reg
I don't know too much else about him. I know he was called George Edward Agar, born around 1891 - although some of his papers such as medical card / id card say 1892/1893. He said he was born at Custom House West Ham, but I am not 100% certain this was correct.
He married Ellen Blackman in 1916 in West Ham. Ellen was married before. I am not sure which is her surname and which is her married name, but on marriage cert it is Blackman, with father as Edward Blackman. However on their children's birth certs it is Ellen Agar, late Blackman, formerly Coleman.
From his marriage cert - his father was called George also. This cert says in Jan 1916, both George and his father were Firemen.
On this cert his age is given as 23.
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Zoe
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Ozibird
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29 Nov 2007 20:06 |
Why do you query Custom House as pob?
I found this, it might be a link.
1901: Name: Ella Aggar Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Custom House, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: The Ascension County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Canning Town ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Oavis 66 [could be Davis] Ella Aggar 10 Robert Carruthers 37 - visitor
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Ozibird
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29 Nov 2007 20:07 |
Probably not though:
1891: Name: Ella L Aggar Age: 3/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Robert J Mother's name: Alice A Gender: Female Where born: Essex, London, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert J Aggar 29 Alice A Aggar 29 Robert Aggar 6 Frederick W Aggar 3 Ella L Aggar 3/12 Ellen Slattey 11
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Zoe
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1 Dec 2007 20:42 |
Thanks Ozi.
The names are not ones that I recognise at the moment - having not gone any further than george, but I'll save them as St Luke and Canning Town etc. are on the Marriage cert and children's birth certs so they could be related somehow :o)
The thing that was making me doubt if he was born at Custom House was the fact that when he had to swear in court, he was quite old and from the fact that on his medical papers and ID card, there are different years of birth written - as if he wasn't quite sure. As I haven't been able to find him in the census etc in West Ham or Essex, is making me wonder if maybe he was from somewhere else and moved to West Ham. Is starting to be a real puzzle - and very frustrating :o$
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