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28 Nov 2007 02:17 |
Please read thru thread and look at the 1891 & 1901 info - note 2 Olives then read last but 1 reply .
Harry Randle born 1851 Foleshill Warwickshire (parents Joseph & Harriet) 1861 onwards please thankyou debbie ;-))
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Ozibird
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28 Nov 2007 04:55 |
I'll go back & check the images after I've posted the info, so check the posts a couple of times.
1861: Name: Harry Randle Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Harriett Gender: Male Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Foleshill County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Foleshill Sub-registration district: Foleshill ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Randle 3w Ellen Randle 2 Emily Randle 7 Harriett Randle 29 Harriett Randle 5 Harry Randle 9 Joseph Randle 30
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28 Nov 2007 04:56 |
1871: Name: Harry Randle Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Harriett Gender: Male Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Foleshill Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Foleshill County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Foleshill Sub-registration district: Foleshill ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Agness Randle 2 Clara Randle 4 Elen Randle 13 Eliza Randle 11 Emily Randle 18 Harriett Randle 37 Harriett Randle 15 Harry Randle 20 Joseph Randle 38
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28 Nov 2007 04:58 |
1881: Name: Harry Randle Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Foleshill County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Partings of The Heath Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Silk Weaver Registration district: Foleshill Sub-registration district: Foleshill ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Gertrude M. Randle 4 Harry Randle 29 Harry Randle 3 Herbert J. Randle Loiue M. Randle 5 Mary Ann Randle 28
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Ozibird
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28 Nov 2007 05:01 |
I'm sorry. I've just had a visitor call in. I'll check this later to see if somebody finished it for you.
Ozi.
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Nov 2007 05:20 |
Dear heaven, what a mess-up!!
1891 Census
Name: Henry Randle Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Iolichile, Warwickshire, England <-----FOLESHILL on image Civil Parish: St Lawrence Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence Town: Foleshill County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Foleshill Sub-registration district: Foleshill ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Aline Lily Randle 4 <--- OLIVE Lily b.ca 1887, Foleshill, Scholar Gertrude M Randle 14 b.ca 1877, Foleshill, Scholar Harry Randle 13 b.ca 1878, Foleshill, Scholar Henry Randle 41 Silk Weaver Henry Knight Randle 6/12 <--- PERCY Knight b.ca 1890, Foleshill Herbert Randle 11 b.ca 1880, Foleshill, Scholar Lucie May Randle 15 b.ca 1876, Foleshill, Scholar Mary Ann Randle 39 b.ca 1852, Birmingham
Address:- Chapel Lane Little Bank (??), St Lawrence, Warwickshire I'll do as Ozi started, and return with the details.
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28 Nov 2007 05:21 |
1901 Census
Name: Harry Randle Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Coventry Ecclesiastical parish: Foleshill St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 286 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Knight 87 b.ca 1814, Birmingham, Widow, Retired Lady Harry Randle 49 Foundry Labourer Harry Randle 23 b.ca 1878, Foleshill, Shoemaker (on own account) Mary Ann Randle 48 b.ca 1853, Foleshill Olive Randle 5 b.ca 1896, Foleshill Percy Randle 11 b.ca 1890, Foleshill
Address:- 5 Station St East, Coventry
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Nov 2007 05:44 |
1881 Census details
Name Age Gertrude M. Randle 4 b.ca 1877, Foleshill, Scholar Harry Randle 29 Silk Weaver Harry Randle 3 b.ca 1878, Foleshill Herbert J. Randle 6 mos (on image), b. ca 1880, Foleshill Loiue M. Randle 5 b.ca 1876, Foleshill, Scholar Mary Ann Randle 28 b.ca 1853, Birmingham, Silk Weaver
Address:- Partings of the Heath, Foleshill
BTW, next door is Joseph Randle b. ca 1832, and wife Harriott
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28 Nov 2007 05:46 |
Haryr and Mary Ann's marriage registration (from freebmd)
Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%) Knight Mary Ann Foleshill 6d 585 Randle Harry Foleshill 6d 585
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28 Nov 2007 05:54 |
1871 Census
Name Age Agness Randle 2 b.ca 1869, Foleshill Clara Randle 4 b.ca 1867, Foleshill Elen Randle 13 b.ca 1858, Foleshill, Scholar Eliza Randle 11 b.ca 1860, Foleshill, Scholar Emily Randle 18 b.ca 1853, Foleshill, Silk Weaver Harriett Randle 37 b.ca 1834, Foleshill, Silk Weaver Harriett Randle 15 b.ca 1856, Foleshill, Silk Weaver Harry Randle 20 Silk Weaver Joseph Randle 38 b.ca 1833, Foleshill, Silk Weaver
Address:- Coventry & Hinckley Turnpike Road, Foleshill
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Nov 2007 06:01 |
1861 Census
Name Age Eliza Randle 3w b.ca 1861, Foleshill Ellen Randle 2 b.ca 1859, Foleshill Emily Randle 7 b.ca 1854, Foleshill, Scholar Harriett Randle 29 b.ca 1832, Foleshill, Bar Loom Ribbon Weaver Harriett Randle 5 b.ca 1856, Foleshill, Scholar Harry Randle 9 Shute Filler Joseph Randle 30 b.ca 1831, Foleshill, Bar Loom Ribbon Weaver
Address:- Parting of Heath, Foleshill
Next door is Charles Randle b.ca 1827
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Ozibird
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28 Nov 2007 06:05 |
Thanks, Sylvia.
Ozi.
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Debbie
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28 Nov 2007 09:39 |
thankyou Sylvia & Ozi ;-))
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Nov 2007 17:31 |
Deb,
re your pm about
Olive Lily Randle b. ca 1887, Foleshill, on the 1891
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Olive Randle, b.ca 1896 Foleshill, on the 1901
I have double checked the censuses and the images, and that is what they say. The names and ages are as I put them last night, so the birth year has not been mis-attributed.
Olive Lily was transcribed as Aline Lily but the image is clearly Olive. I did compare the initial letter with other As and Os on the page.
I checked freebmd and found the following Olive births in Foleshill:-
Births Jun 1886 (>99%) Randle Olive Lilly Foleshill 6d 486
Births Sep 1895 (>99%) Randle Olive Dorothy Foleshill 6d 499
Plus an Oliver Randle born in 1896 to, I think, John & Eliza Randle.
I could not find a birth for Aline or Alice Lil(l)y Randle.
I cannot find a death for an Olive or Olive Lil(l)y between 1891 and 1897, nor can I find her on the 1901 census. Yet that is what must have happened.
I have put this on here in the hope that someone else may be able to solve the problem.
sylvia
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Debbie
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28 Nov 2007 21:09 |
nudge with a 'N'
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Ozibird
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28 Nov 2007 22:12 |
Found nothing.
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Jacqui
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28 Nov 2007 22:28 |
Do you know what happened to the older daughters. Could Olive number 2 be a child of one of them?
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Ozibird
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28 Nov 2007 22:31 |
Jacqui - that's exactly what passed through my mind.
Debbie - image for 1901 is definitely Olive, definitely daughter. Unless you're happy to wait for the 1911 census I think the only way to sort this out is to get the younger Olive's birth cert!
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Debbie
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28 Nov 2007 22:59 |
yes it had crossed my mind too
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Nov 2007 00:42 |
Can anyone find Olive no 1 anywhere on the 1901??
I did have a quick look on ancestry before I went out this morning (my time!), and didn't find anything then.
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