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Debbie n Sylvia need help to solve this !Randle lo

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Debbie

Debbie Report 28 Nov 2007 02:17

Please read thru thread and look at the 1891 & 1901 info - note 2 Olives then read last but 1 reply .

Harry Randle born 1851 Foleshill Warwickshire (parents Joseph & Harriet) 1861 onwards please
thankyou
debbie ;-))

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 04:55

I'll go back & check the images after I've posted the info, so check the posts a couple of times.

1861:
Name: Harry Randle
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph
Mother's name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Foleshill
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Randle 3w
Ellen Randle 2
Emily Randle 7
Harriett Randle 29
Harriett Randle 5
Harry Randle 9
Joseph Randle 30

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 04:56

1871:
Name: Harry Randle
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph
Mother's name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Foleshill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Foleshill
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Agness Randle 2
Clara Randle 4
Elen Randle 13
Eliza Randle 11
Emily Randle 18
Harriett Randle 37
Harriett Randle 15
Harry Randle 20
Joseph Randle 38

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 04:58

1881:
Name: Harry Randle
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Foleshill
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: Partings of The Heath
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Silk Weaver

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gertrude M. Randle 4
Harry Randle 29
Harry Randle 3
Herbert J. Randle
Loiue M. Randle 5
Mary Ann Randle 28

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 05:01

I'm sorry. I've just had a visitor call in. I'll check this later to see if somebody finished it for you.

Ozi.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 05:20

Dear heaven, what a mess-up!!


1891 Census

Name: Henry Randle
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Iolichile, Warwickshire, England <-----FOLESHILL on image

Civil Parish: St Lawrence
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Foleshill
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aline Lily Randle 4 <--- OLIVE Lily b.ca 1887, Foleshill, Scholar
Gertrude M Randle 14 b.ca 1877, Foleshill, Scholar
Harry Randle 13 b.ca 1878, Foleshill, Scholar
Henry Randle 41 Silk Weaver
Henry Knight Randle 6/12 <--- PERCY Knight b.ca 1890, Foleshill
Herbert Randle 11 b.ca 1880, Foleshill, Scholar
Lucie May Randle 15 b.ca 1876, Foleshill, Scholar
Mary Ann Randle 39 b.ca 1852, Birmingham

Address:- Chapel Lane Little Bank (??), St Lawrence, Warwickshire


I'll do as Ozi started, and return with the details.


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 05:21

1901 Census

Name: Harry Randle
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Coventry
Ecclesiastical parish: Foleshill St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 286
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Knight 87 b.ca 1814, Birmingham, Widow, Retired Lady
Harry Randle 49 Foundry Labourer
Harry Randle 23 b.ca 1878, Foleshill, Shoemaker (on own account)
Mary Ann Randle 48 b.ca 1853, Foleshill
Olive Randle 5 b.ca 1896, Foleshill
Percy Randle 11 b.ca 1890, Foleshill


Address:- 5 Station St East, Coventry



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 05:44

1881 Census details

Name Age
Gertrude M. Randle 4 b.ca 1877, Foleshill, Scholar
Harry Randle 29 Silk Weaver
Harry Randle 3 b.ca 1878, Foleshill
Herbert J. Randle 6 mos (on image), b. ca 1880, Foleshill
Loiue M. Randle 5 b.ca 1876, Foleshill, Scholar
Mary Ann Randle 28 b.ca 1853, Birmingham, Silk Weaver

Address:- Partings of the Heath, Foleshill


BTW, next door is Joseph Randle b. ca 1832, and wife Harriott



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 05:46

Haryr and Mary Ann's marriage registration (from freebmd)

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)

Knight Mary Ann Foleshill 6d 585
Randle Harry Foleshill 6d 585


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 05:54

1871 Census

Name Age
Agness Randle 2 b.ca 1869, Foleshill
Clara Randle 4 b.ca 1867, Foleshill
Elen Randle 13 b.ca 1858, Foleshill, Scholar
Eliza Randle 11 b.ca 1860, Foleshill, Scholar
Emily Randle 18 b.ca 1853, Foleshill, Silk Weaver
Harriett Randle 37 b.ca 1834, Foleshill, Silk Weaver
Harriett Randle 15 b.ca 1856, Foleshill, Silk Weaver
Harry Randle 20 Silk Weaver
Joseph Randle 38 b.ca 1833, Foleshill, Silk Weaver


Address:- Coventry & Hinckley Turnpike Road, Foleshill



sylvia


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 06:01

1861 Census

Name Age
Eliza Randle 3w b.ca 1861, Foleshill
Ellen Randle 2 b.ca 1859, Foleshill
Emily Randle 7 b.ca 1854, Foleshill, Scholar
Harriett Randle 29 b.ca 1832, Foleshill, Bar Loom Ribbon Weaver
Harriett Randle 5 b.ca 1856, Foleshill, Scholar
Harry Randle 9 Shute Filler
Joseph Randle 30 b.ca 1831, Foleshill, Bar Loom Ribbon Weaver

Address:- Parting of Heath, Foleshill


Next door is Charles Randle b.ca 1827


sylvia


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 06:05

Thanks, Sylvia.

Ozi.

Debbie

Debbie Report 28 Nov 2007 09:39

thankyou Sylvia & Ozi ;-))

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Nov 2007 17:31

Deb,

re your pm about

Olive Lily Randle b. ca 1887, Foleshill, on the 1891

and

Olive Randle, b.ca 1896 Foleshill, on the 1901

I have double checked the censuses and the images, and that is what they say. The names and ages are as I put them last night, so the birth year has not been mis-attributed.

Olive Lily was transcribed as Aline Lily but the image is clearly Olive. I did compare the initial letter with other As and Os on the page.

I checked freebmd and found the following Olive births in Foleshill:-

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)

Randle Olive Lilly Foleshill 6d 486


Births Sep 1895 (>99%)

Randle Olive Dorothy Foleshill 6d 499


Plus an Oliver Randle born in 1896 to, I think, John & Eliza Randle.

I could not find a birth for Aline or Alice Lil(l)y Randle.

I cannot find a death for an Olive or Olive Lil(l)y between 1891 and 1897, nor can I find her on the 1901 census. Yet that is what must have happened.

I have put this on here in the hope that someone else may be able to solve the problem.


sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 28 Nov 2007 21:09

nudge with a 'N'

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 22:12

Found nothing.

Ozi.

Jacqui

Jacqui Report 28 Nov 2007 22:28

Do you know what happened to the older daughters. Could Olive number 2 be a child of one of them?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Nov 2007 22:31

Jacqui - that's exactly what passed through my mind.



Debbie - image for 1901 is definitely Olive, definitely daughter. Unless you're happy to wait for the 1911 census I think the only way to sort this out is to get the younger Olive's birth cert!

Ozi.

Debbie

Debbie Report 28 Nov 2007 22:59

yes it had crossed my mind too

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Nov 2007 00:42

Can anyone find Olive no 1 anywhere on the 1901??

I did have a quick look on ancestry before I went out this morning (my time!), and didn't find anything then.


sylvia