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Tarrants of southwark

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Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 13:02

PS Jack would be the John J shown in the 1891(Jack is the usual nickname for John, as Harry is usual nickname for Henry). Minnie may have been born the following year after the 1891. Yes, she was: (Do you not use freebmd?)

Births Jun 1892
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Tarrant Minnie Rose St. Saviour 1d 27

Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 13:01

You always need to look at the images - not just the transcribed info on ancestry. You may find lots more information that way.

If you cant find someone on a census, try using less info, like just a first name plus all the birth year, birth place, spouse or parents names other info - and then see if you can spot a likely transcription error in a name and then bring up the image to check it. In the 1891 above, I used just Harrys details - you are more likely to find the youngest person in a family or one with an unusual name (when you arent using a surname in the search).

Sharon

Sharon Report 29 Nov 2007 12:37

Yes i see thats great!
I told nan too as its her that wants me to find out more.
Im still new to this whole tree thing and the spelling mistakes in census really throws me out.
I still cannot see why we have no mention of the sister to henry (wrote up there as harry) minnie and jack isnt mentioned.
But i keep finding people who i have known in our family as sue there name has been ann!
They did like changing them huh?

Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 12:28

Yes it would be Peak Freans - did you see that they were neighbours to my ancestors, the Dixons?

Sharon

Sharon Report 29 Nov 2007 12:18

I have read through and i can see why i had problems now.
Henry is def henry on his death cert i made nan look.
Although on different census he was harry! and reading down that list they was all called tennant at one time so i think mistakes on census made it harder to follow.
We shall set about getting some birth certs now i know for sure im on right track :)
and it was eliza tule nan when i ask confirmed that it was that with spellins too, See she is very useful when you start telling her thinks she even told me it was peak freans biscuits eliza worked for haha

Sharon

Sharon Report 29 Nov 2007 11:42

Thank youy for that your a star xxx
Im going to have a read through and by looks of it everyone of them is right :)
Problem i have is my nan saying (she is totally with it and brain members everything) said her dads called henry lewis hence me naming my son after him (lewis) but then she said she thought he was born a harry and i was totally thrown and thought i have been chasing wrong tree but seeing the names you have is great! as the addies you have posted match and they are what my nan remebers most.
She can list everyones address incuding neighbours it seems haha
but thank you again you really are great xxx
off to read properly now

Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 10:31

Oh, and as I said, get the 1851 birth cert(ref above) for Walter to get Sussanah's full maiden name.(possibly Caves?)

Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 09:23

Just for your info, Eliza Jane Tulk is a biscuit packer. Her father is a furniture packer.



Moving forward to the 1881 when Harry is 8 months old:(By the way, the next door neighbours are some of my Dixon ancestors)


Walter C. Tarrant
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza J.
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 66 St James Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: House Decorator

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 28a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J. Tarrant 29
George F. Tarrant 3
Harry L. Tarrant
Walter C. Tarrant 30
Walter H. Tarrant 6
William T. Tarrant 5


1891:

Harry L Tennant
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter C
Mother's Name: Eliza J
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred P Tennant 4
Eliza J Tennant 39
George F Tennant 12
Harry L Tennant 10
John J Tennant 2
Walter C Tennant 40
Walter H Tennant 16
William T Tennant 14

As you know from the death reg above, dad dies a few years after this. Eliza is still a relatively young woman and may remarry - Ill leave you to scan the freebmd for a possible remarriage :)

Harrys marriage: Take it you know which of the brides he married


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Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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MURPHY Michael St. Olave 1d 492
Tarrant Henry Lewis St Olave 1d 492
TOWNSEND Sarah Ann St. Olave 1d 492
WILTON Ada St. Olave 1d 492

Heather

Heather Report 29 Nov 2007 08:57

Have you found their marriage - Walter and wife? The certificate would give you both fathers' names and occupations and the brides surname. (One of the kids birth certs would give mums full name).

I think you are getting confused because you arent working backwards from solid facts and certificates but jumping backwards and forwards with no definite line to follow.

Not sure why you mean you are stuck on Harry, grans dad? You know who he married and when I take it? You still have gran there to ask. So in what way are you stuck?

You need to buy certificates at £7 each from GRO online to confirm you are on the right track.
This is the 1871: 6 Cecilia Place, Blue Anchor Road. Walter is a house painter. His father was born Somers Town and is a sign writer. This is the right lot isnt it??

: Walter Tarrant
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Jane Rogers 39
Sarah Rogers 45
Alfred Tarrant 11
Elizabeth L Tarrant 9
Frederick Tarrant 2
James Tarrant 22
Mary Ann Tarrant 13
Susannah Tarrant 47
Thomas Tarrant 8
Walter Tarrant 20
William Tarrant 49
William F Tarrant 26

1861:living 6 Albert Terrace, father is a coach painter

Name: Walter C Tarant
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William S
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Berlin, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Bermondsey St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Tarant 1
James W Tarant 12
John J Tarant 14
Mary Ann Tarant 3
Susannah Tarant 37
Susannah Tarant 8
Walter C Tarant 10
William S Tarant 39
William S Tarant 16


1851 living Maria Street:

Name: Walter C Tarrant
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William T
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsy, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members: Name Age
James W Tarrant 2
John J Tarrant 4
Sarah Tarrant 20
Walter C Tarrant 3 Mo
William T Tarrant 29
William T Tarrant 6


His birth ref - buy cert for £7

Name: Walter Caves Tarrant
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bermondsey (1837-69)
County: Surrey
Volume: 4
Page: 4


His marriage: Eliza Tule or Tulk, they arent sure of the spelling.
Ann Hunt 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Charles Price 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Walter Caves Tarrent 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Eliza Jane Tule 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Eliza Jane Tulk 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey



His death

Name: Walter Caves Tarrant
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 43
District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 170

Its Tulk:

1871

Name: Eliza Tulk
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Househo

Sharon

Sharon Report 29 Nov 2007 08:02

I am having a hell of a time tracing the tarrant family back.
And wonder if anyone could help or shed light on this?
I have managed to go back to walter tarrant 1851 who married an eliza jane unsure of her maiden name?
He was born in Bermondsey and was a decorator he had the following children
walter 1875
william 1876
George 1878
Harry 1880 ( nans dad and im stuck here)
jack c1982
Think some died inbetween?
minnie c1989 (move to aus)

Ok as i said im stuck on harry, he was known to his family as henry lewis tarrant but im unable to find him anywhere under henry so i have to take it that his harry as years and middle name matches in census.
So looking for more info on the above.
Now walter (1851) and eliza i can find on the censuc in 1881 as married and the first 4 children are on there, Then we have a blank!
I can find him in the 71 census at 20 but although they tell me he was son of head of house i cannot find anymore info that tells me who else lived there.
I have no record of him before or after anywhere, Now he had to have someone who cared for him and i dont know when he died but looking at the census i did find an eliza jane with a few of the children in 1991 but not sure if its the same one?
I am now getting confused with it all and need help boo hoo
Haha im really trying to get somewhere with this one as my nan is still living and she would really like to know more about her past.
But appears the tarrants are not as easy to track as i first thought?