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29 Nov 2007 23:05 |
ok I got it ..Sarah was with grandparents in 1861
1861 Census living at 102 Mansion House Daventry Long Buckby, Northants Joseph Pollard Age 69 - Agricultural Labourer Wife Mary Age 63 Daughter Martha Age 25 Granddaughter Sarah Age 3
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29 Nov 2007 23:04 |
Also I have for Zillah in 1861
1861 Census Entry 1861 Living at Thrupp Grounds, Norton
Edward Downing – retired blacksmith abt 1789 Stowe, Northamptonshire, England Head Norton Northamptonshire
Elizabeth Downing abt 1794 East Haddon, Northamptonshire, England Wife Norton Northamptonshire
Zillah Pollard – domestic servant abt 1839 Norton, Northamptonshire, England Servant (unmarried) Norton Northamptonshire
So Where did Sarah Go??? She should be age 2 or 3
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29 Nov 2007 22:58 |
Can Anyone find Sarah Pollard b1858 with her mother in the 1861 census??? This might give a clue as to Zillah's first partner or Sarah's Father?
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29 Nov 2007 22:53 |
OK Sarah Pollard (Moss/Wait) Is somewhat of an enigma.
She is apparently the Illegitimate daughter of Zillah Pollard Before Zillah Married Thomas Townley. I Do not know who Sarah Pollard's real father is. I do know that Thomas Signed on her marriage certificate to Edwin Moss (B 1861 d. 1888).
I Believed that Edwin Moss b 1889 was their first child and I think you all just confirmed that, so I think I will get his Birth certificate to check his father is Edwin Moss Snr.
However there is another child.....My grandfather. Arthur Nevill Pollard Moss b. 1890 who is Sarah Pollard's second Child. His Father is listed as Edwin Moss in the birth certificate. HOWEVER Edwin was dead before Arthur could even have been conceived.
Arthur was given up for adoption to the Hill Family in Nuneaton. It looks however as if his brother Edwin was kept in the fold of his Grandmother Zillah and her husband Thomas Townley.
I knew about Sarah working for the Swords, but not about the remarriage to William Wait...She is now back on my radar.
If this helps people get me any more info on this family it would be great
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KathleenBell
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29 Nov 2007 22:42 |
This is Edwin's birth reference. The certificate will give Sarah's maiden name :-
Name: Edwin Frederick Moss Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Daventry County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 118
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KathleenBell
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29 Nov 2007 22:35 |
I wonder if Sarah wasn't married to Edwin's father and the Townley's were Edwin's father's family??
Sarah doesn't seem to be with the Townley family when she was young.
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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29 Nov 2007 22:35 |
Well spotted Kathleen - hadn't picked up on that.
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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29 Nov 2007 22:30 |
1871:
homas Townley Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lilla Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Whilton Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Alice Townley 1 7 months Lilla Townley 32 Thomas Townley 42 View Original Record
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KathleenBell
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29 Nov 2007 22:30 |
Think that must be a second marriage for Thomas Townley, as Sarah was born before this marriage date.
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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29 Nov 2007 22:29 |
Thomas and Zillah in 1881:
Thomas Townley Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Zillah Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Whilton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Whilton Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Farm Lab Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Townley 12 Elizabeth Annie Townley Helen Townley 7 Thomas Townley 53 Tom Townley 3 Zillah Townley 38 View Original Record
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Elizabeth Annie is 11 months old
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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29 Nov 2007 22:27 |
Think grandma's name is Zillah as I found this:
Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%) Pollard Zillah Daventry 3b 162 Scan available - click to view Townley Thomas Daventry 3b 162
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KathleenBell
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29 Nov 2007 22:26 |
Think this is his mother in 1891 (There is a Townley in the household too who is probably her sister):-
Name: Sarah Moss Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Whitton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Luton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Annetta Culverhouse 25 Sarah Moss 30 Clara Swords 32 Constance M Swords 20 Ellen C Swords 62 Ernest G Swords 22 Sidney V Swords 23 Thomas Swords 67 Ellen Townley 16
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1274; Folio 42; Page 4; GSU roll: 6096384.
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29 Nov 2007 22:22 |
This looks like him with his grandparents in 1891:-
Name: Edwin Fridrich Moss Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Whilton Ecclesiastical parish: Whilton Town: Whilton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Fridrich Moss 2 Elizabeth Annie Townley 11 Gallah Townley 46 Thomas Townley 59 Tom Townley 10
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1206; Folio 115; Page 2; GSU roll: 6096316.
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29 Nov 2007 22:21 |
1891:
Edwin Fridrich Moss Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Whilton Ecclesiastical parish: Whilton Town: Whilton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Fridrich Moss 2 Elizabeth Annie Townley 11 Gallah Townley 46 Thomas Townley 59 Tom Townley 10 View Original Record
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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1206; Folio 115; Page 2; GSU
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KathleenBell
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29 Nov 2007 22:17 |
This is him. It looks like his mother has married again as he is described as son-in-law (which at his age means step-son):-
Name: Edwin Fk Moss Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Long Buckby Ecclesiastical parish: Long Buckby St Lawrence Town: Long Buckby County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Fog Cottages
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Fk Moss 12 Wm H Wait 4 Sarah Wart 43 (Wait on image) Wm Hazelwood Wart 53 (Wait on image) Kath. x
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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29 Nov 2007 22:16 |
Do you have him in 1891?
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Yvonne
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29 Nov 2007 22:15 |
Is this the right one?
Name: Edwin Fk Moss Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Whilton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Long Buckby Ecclesiastical parish: Long Buckby St Lawrence Town: Long Buckby County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Long Buckby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Fk Moss 12 Wm H Wait 4 Sarah Wart 43 Wm Hazelwood Wart 53 Yvonne
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Fraser
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29 Nov 2007 22:09 |
I have this info
Edwin Fk Moss Age 12 Born Whilton Northants Northampton Parish Long Buckby
I want to know who else is listed in his household. I wan to see if he is with his own Family or has been adopted by another
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