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Frances
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30 Nov 2007 14:25 |
Following Sue's success with the 1901 census I now know that Alfred Berry and his wife Clara were both 38 in 1901.
They only had children with them born after 1891 but this marriage
Marriages Dec 1883 BERRY Alfred Halifax 9a 767 KITSON Clara Halifax 9a 767
suggests there are possibly earlier children. Does the 1891 confirm my thought and does it give the places of birth for Alfred and Clara please?
Many thanks, Frances
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30 Nov 2007 14:30 |
1891 with a bonus
Name: Alfred Berry Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Clara Gender: Male Where born: Greetland, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Halifax Ecclesiastical parish: Ovenden St Georges Town: Halifax County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Berry 1 Alfred Berry 29 Greetland, Yorkshire Clara Berry 28 Skircoat, Yorkshire Joseph Kitson 65 Skircoat, Yorkshire, father-in-law
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Joan
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30 Nov 2007 14:32 |
Frances,
Here's the familiy in 1891:
1891 England Census about Alfred Berry Name: Alfred Berry Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Clara Gender: Male Where born: Greetland, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Halifax Ecclesiastical parish: Ovenden St Georges Town: Halifax County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Berry 1 Alfred Berry 29 Clara Berry 28 Joseph Kitson 65 They were living at 8 Hobhouses, Alfred was a machine painter. Clara was born in Skircoat, Yorks.
Joan
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Frances
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30 Nov 2007 14:36 |
Thank you Joan and Maureen and the bonus is great. That will make the 1881 for Clara a certainty!
Frances
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30 Nov 2007 14:41 |
death? Albert Berry abt 1890 1892 Apr-May-Jun Halifax Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
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Diane
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30 Nov 2007 14:46 |
1871 England Census about Clara Kitson Name: Clara Kitson Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Skircoat Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Skircoat Green County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin F Kitson 17 - apprentice joiner and builder Clara Kitson 8 - worsted spinner James W Kitson 5 months John Kitson 11 - Worsted Duffer Joseph Kitson 45 -born Halifax Cloth Oil Worker Joseph C Kitson 5 - scholar Martha Kitson 20 - fancy weaver Mary Kitson 43 - born Halifax Thomas Kitson 14 - apprentice butcher Couldn't resist!! All down as born Halifax.
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Diane
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30 Nov 2007 14:51 |
Possible marriage:
Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%) Farrar Mary Halifax 22 146 Kitson Joseph Halifax 22 146
Sarah Farrar is on the same page, perhaps they were sisters and had a double wedding??
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30 Nov 2007 14:53 |
Not sure which Alfred in 1881 as too many of right age and possible area
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Diane
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30 Nov 2007 14:54 |
1861 England Census about Joseph Kitson Name: Joseph Kitson Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Skircoat Ecclesiastical parish: Salterhebble County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Kitson 7 - scholar John Kitson 1 Joseph Kitson 35 - labourer at boiler making factory Martha Kitson 10 - a factory worker Mary Kitson 33 Thomas Kitson 4
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30 Nov 2007 14:56 |
1871 I am wondering about this one
Name: Alfred Beny Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Barkisland, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Elland With Greetland Ecclesiastical parish: Greetland County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Elland ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 96 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Beny 8 Ann Elizh Beny 2 Edward Beny 32 Fred Beny 4 Martha Beny 35 Looks like the family are listed twice - also as Berry
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30 Nov 2007 14:58 |
1851 England Census about Joseph Kitson Name: Joseph Kitson Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Skircoat, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Skircoat Ecclesiastical parish: Salterhebble County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 2i Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age David Farrar 14 Delia Farrar 17 Martha Farrar 11 William Farrar 21 Joseph Kitson 25 Martha Kitson 3 days Mary Kitson 23 Sarah Kitson 3 days Blakey Spencer 48 - Head - Stone Mason Edmund Spencer 9 Ellen Spencer 14 Sarah Spencer 50 William Spencer 12 This is a more complicated one to work out relationships. Both Joseph and Mary Kitson are deemed son and daughter in law, as are the four eldest Farrars.
I'm thinking therefore that it is actually what we would now class as "step" children, and that Mary and the Farrars are children of Sarah by an earlier marriage.
What do others think?
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Diane
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30 Nov 2007 15:00 |
1841 England Census about Joseph Kitson Name: Joseph Kitson Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Halifax Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Debora Kitson 35 John Kitson 35 Joseph Kitson 15 Mary Kitson 6 Mo Samuel Kitson 13 William Kitson 6
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30 Nov 2007 15:03 |
1881 same family as the 1871 but not sure about his occupation
1881 Name: Alfred Berry Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Skircoat County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 96 Railway Ter Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Worsted Warper Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax ED, institution, or vessel: 64 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Berry 18 Amy Berry 4 Ann E. Berry 12 Edward Berry 42 occupation of yeast dealer Emily Berry 7 Fred Berry 14 Martha Berry 43
Think you need marriage cert to find out name of father and his occupation
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Frances
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30 Nov 2007 15:20 |
Firstly thank you Diane for alerting me to tha fact that you all have been so busy in my absence. Thank you all for what you have found. Like Maureen I was puzzling over the two likely Alberts in the 1881, as neither of them mention Greetland. However, having wandered in that area in the past I know Barkisland is next door so Edward and Martha are the preffered parents for Albert.
Thanks again for all your efforts - now I have to put them all in the tree!
Frances
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30 Nov 2007 20:30 |
1841 England Census about Benjamin Farrar Name: Benjamin Farrar Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Halifax Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Halifax Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Farrar 40 David Farrar 4 Delia Farrar 7 Elizabeth Farrar 15 Martha Farrar 1 Mary Farrar 12 Sarah Farrar 40 Sarah Farrar 9 William Farrar 11 In case this thread gets used again!!
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