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great grandfather richard wills

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KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 1 Dec 2007 11:10

Gillian, the reference above is the CENSUS reference, not the birth reference, the birth ref takes the form of Name, year/qtr, Registration district, County, Volume and page number.

This COULD be the birth of Richard in the 1891 census above.
Name: Richard Wills
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bermondsey (1837-69)
County: Surrey
Volume: 4
Page: 21

If Alfred married in 1898, it would appear that the 1891 census one is a bit young.

Gillian

Gillian Report 1 Dec 2007 10:38

Hi my father (alfreds son) was born 1916 so not sure if the alfred u mention was correct one? Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 1 Dec 2007 10:27

Hi Keith have alfred marriage cert married to emily cushway father occ.general dealer mothers namelouisa green have alfred apply with your refence rg12 etc and they say no trace

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 1 Dec 2007 09:48

Have you seen this one in 1891?

Name: Richard Wills
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Wills 7
Esther Wills 16
Florence Wills 4
Louisa Wills 40
Richard Wills 42
Richard Wills 15
William Wills 13

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 363; Folio 65; Page 5

Richard is a General dealer, Alfred is a paper boy.
Note the registration district.

Thelma

Thelma Report 1 Dec 2007 09:42

Have you got Alfred on any census?
Have you got a marriage cert with his father's name?
In other words how sure are you that you have the right birth cert?
Before 1875 birth registration was not compulsory.

Just in passing
death
Alfred Wills abt 1880 1883 Jan-Feb-Mar St Saviour Southwark London, Surrey

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 1 Dec 2007 09:30

Hi Gill, do you have the marriage cert for Alfred? What is his fathers occupation on that?
Also what is his mothers name?
Have you found him on any other census other than the 1901 when he is married?

Gillian

Gillian Report 1 Dec 2007 08:42

Hi On my grandfather birth cert it has his father as above name alfred (his son) was born 28 march 1878 registration dist st saviour southwark county of surrey but trying to trace richard is getting difficult on alfred birth it says richard occupation is a general dealer but the one i keep getting up they say they cannot find birth cert for him when applied for via gro site alfred married in 1898 in walworth london if i cant find richard details then i will have just to give up because do not know where to go from now Gll