Hi, Sorry about PM! A big fat thank you for your help! My mom has been bending my ear to find them!! Simone.
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Hi ... uh, Simone! I hate PMs. I have to go find the thread to figure out what they're about. ;)
Batches, you ask. I only learned about batches a few months ago. When you find a record in the IGI, it will give you the batch number it belongs to. In the batch will be all the christenings or marriages for a particular time period in a particular parish.
You can click on the batch number on the record of the person you're looking at, and then search in that batch only. The wonderful thing is that you can then search by surname alone, or given name alone, or year alone. When you're searching the IGI without a batch number, you have to have a complete name -- and often that is exactly what you're trying to find! -- e.g. whether someone had any siblings.
Hugh Wallis has compiled a big list of all the parishes in the IGI and the batch numbers that go with them; it's explained here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm
and then you go to the different counties and parishes.
Batch numbers starting with M and C, mainly, are quite reliable "extracted" copies of parish records. Some other batches seem reliable -- they apparently contain detailed transcriptions of parish records done by someone other than the "official" LDS transcribers.
Some records in the IGI, and the batches they belong to (if any), are total crap. Some very distant cousin of mine in California has submitted an ancestor of mine as being married to both her husband and her son, 20 years apart, simply because the two men had the same name and both married women named Frances. (Actually, the younger one was probably really named Tryphoena, but that's another story.)
So if you take those various batch numbers in my post to
http://www.familysearch.org
and go to advanced search, International Genealogical index, and search only for the surname of interest in the batch number in question, you'll get a bunch of stuff to look at.
I envy you having family records back that far, as you mentioned. I knew the names of 7 of my 8 gr-grparents, born in the 1850s to 1870s, when I started 3 years ago, and the birthplaces of only about half of them.
Now I know that the name of one of them was totally fake!
Go play in the IGI now, and have fun!
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Wise policy to tell everything you know -- like where the marriage occurred, where they lived. So that anyone trying to help doesn't have to go finding that info for him/herself in order to know where to look for them and verify that s/he is on the right track.
From the IGI:
JOHN JELLIS Spouse: JANE DICKENS Marriage: 02 MAR 1829 Ravensthorpe, Northampton, England
Note that the batch number, 7118721, contains unconfirmed submitted information. It does seem to have a whole lot of very specific information though (see the entries for surname Dickens, e.g.), so may be a reliable copy of parish records.
In the 1841 census entry at Ancestry, this correction has been made:
Explanation: I am reseaching the Jellis family. The enumerator's handwriting on this record is difficult to read. Contributed By: jfremont1
Name: John Yetter [John Jellis] Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Guilsborough Hundred: Guilsborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Brixworth Sub-registration district: Spratton
Catherine Yetter 9 Elizabeth Yetter 7 Jane Yetter 30 John Yetter 35 John Yetter 12 Louisa Yetter 1 (not Lois) Richard Yetter 3 Thomas Yetter 5
If you don't already know that person, you might want to get in touch!
You might also want to correct the 1851 entry at Ancestry:
Name: John Jollis - pauper formerly miller Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Hollowell, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Hollowell Ecclesiastical parish: Hollowell County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Brixworth Sub-registration district: Spratton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 16
Jane Jellis 44 Joseph Jellis 1 Louisa Jellis 10 Mary Ann Jellis 6 Richard Jellis 13 Thomas Jellis 15 John Jollis 49
It appears that he died in 1852.
There is no daughter Sarah in evidence in any census, although a daughter born c1829 could have been living/working as a servant in 1841. (A different Jane Jellis, in Winwick, has a daughter Sarah in 1841, and a Sarah born c1826 is living in Whilton.)
Jane remarried before 1861:
Name: Joseph Jellis Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Hollowell, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Cottesbrooke County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Brixworth Sub-registration district: Spratton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 24
Joseph Jellis 11 James Payne 60 Jane Payne 55
This marriage was not too far away:
JOHN JELLES Spouse: SARAH COOPER Marriage: 07 NOV 1808 Lamport, Northampton, England
8005832 is another submitted batch. As is 8628034:
JOHN JELLIS Spouse: SARAH LETTS Marriage: 04 FEB 1772 Guilsborough, Northampton, England
But I'm betting you have all that!
Batch 8628034 does have a load o' Jellis events you might want to look at, if you haven't.
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Hi, I'm trying to find information and relations to John Jellis b1802 married Jane Dickens, they had 4 children that I know of, Joseph, Sarah, Richard and Lois. I have been unable to get any information except this. If you can help please let me know.
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