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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 06:08

1891 Census

Name: James Bannister
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Chilvers Coton, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Chilvers Coton
Ecclesiastical parish: Chilvers Coton
Town: Chilvers Coton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England



Address:- Nuneaton Union Workhouse, College St



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 06:12

Is this Robert on the IGI???

His father's different from what you said


ROBERT LAPWORTH Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 JAN 1837 Stockingford, Warwick, England

Parents:
Father: RICHARD LAPWORTH Family
Mother: ELIZA

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 06:14

This is a SUBMITTED item, but father is Michael

ROBERT LAPWORTH Pedigree
Male Family


Event(s):

Parents:
Father: MICHAEL LAPWORTH Family


Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH ANN HANDLEY Family
Marriage: 23 AUG 1858 Stockingford, Warwick, England

Husband Age at Marriage: 22
Wife Age at Marriage: 19

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Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 06:19

Good night!



see you tomorrow


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 06:24

night night and thankyou Sylvia
x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 07:33

Hang on

Do we have a problem here??

Tinsel found:-
Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)

Grimes Matilda Nuneaton 6d 399
>>>>Handley Sarah Nuneaton 6d 399
>>>>Lapworth Robert Nuneaton 6d 399
Parker Robert Nuneaton 6d 399

BUT


1861 census has


Name: Robert Lapworth
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son-in-law <<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Name: Sarah

Household Members: Name Age
William Handley 16
Eliza Lapworth 2
Robert Lapworth 24
Sarah Lapworth 21
Charles Smith 41 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Hannah Smith 51 <<<<<<<<<<<<
John Smith 16

AND the 1871 Census has Eliza lapworth with her grandparents Charles and Hannah Smith

- - -

Surely this means that Sarah was a SMITH???

Can't find a marriage for a Sarah Smith to a Handley in Nuneaton ..... that doesn't mean there isn't one, just it's getting late!!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 07:38

Someone has annotated the 1861 Census



Name: Sarah Lapworth
[Sarah Smith] <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's Name: Robert
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton Toll End, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Chilvers Coton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub-registration district: Nuneaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Household Members: Name Age
William Handley 16
Eliza Lapworth 2
Robert Lapworth 24
Sarah Lapworth 21
Charles Smith 41
Hannah Smith 51
John Smith 16


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 07:45

yes Sylvia
In the info I have from a family member Robert Lapworth did marry Sarah Ann Handley

There are SMITHS in the next 2 generations up - Eliza Smith married Michael Lapworth , then Eliza's parents are James and Sarah nee Alton/AULTON(we think)
Deb X
Maybe need to find Eliza'a siblings maybe that will help ?

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 07:48

confuzzled !

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 07:52

Charles and Hannha Smith in 1851 ............ but where's Sarah???



Name: Charles Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Chilvers Coton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub-registration district: Nuneaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Smith 33
Hannah Smith 42
John Smith 7
Mary Smith 14



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 07:58

Sorry,

I have to go to bed!!!

its almost midnight here, and I have to be up about 6:30am

Ouch!!


I won't be on until late tomorrow afternoon, but I'll look in to see if anyone has solved the problem.

I have two suggestions


1. Sarah Smith married ?? Handley then married Lapworth


2. Sarah is the child of Hannah Smith, who was a Handley before she married Charles


But I can't find any of those marriages!!


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2007 17:33

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in case someone else has some ideas or can help!


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Dec 2007 19:01

OK, now I understand Sarah Handley's mother Hannah married Charles Smith in 1851 and that's why the Smiths were the grandparents of little Eliza. Also explains why Sarah and Robert were daughter and son-in-law of the Smiths on the 61 census.
So Sylvia in Canada your theory #2 was correct!
Margaret (also in Canada)

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 19:14

lol , thankyou all got there eventually ;-))

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 12 Dec 2007 20:32

Looking at the image for 1851 I think that Mary is 10 (it's not very clear) which then gives Charles in1841

Charles Smith
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Nuneaton
Hundred: Hemlingford (Atherstone Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub-registration district: Nuneaton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Smith 20
Mary Smith 25
Mary Smith 6 Mo


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1127; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Nuneaton; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 22; Folio: 33; Page: 25; Line: 11; GSU roll: 464170.

So Mary and John are going to be Charles' children.

The census in 1851 was taken on March 30th so Charles and Hannah would not have been married - looks like Hannah filled in the form correctly and then Charles put her on again.

Andy

June

June Report 12 Dec 2007 20:53

Marriages Mar 1851 (97%)
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Clark John Nuneaton 16 472
Halford Ann Nuneaton 16 472
Handley Hannah Nuneaton 16 472
Hill Catharine Nuneaton 16 472
Petty Thomas Nuneaton 16 472
Reader Cornelius Nuneaton 16 472
SMITH EMMA NUNEATON 16 472


1 man missing from page and it is Charles Smith
it is on Ancestry NUNEATON 16 472

so Hannah Handley married Charles Smith



June x

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 21:16

CONFUZZLED !!!!!!!
There are 2 '51 searches , 1 for Hannah & 1 for Charles ............. hold on ding ding !
Right so are we saying Hannah & Charles married the day after the census
Hannah had filled her form in in her own right with her & her children omitting Charles as they were not yet married
BUT
Charles filled his out but putting Hannah on his therefore placing Hannah on 2 forms but being the same person ????????
deb x

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 21:20

lol who was hannah before she was a Handley then Smith

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 21:44

wonder if Hannah was just Handley un married with kids then married Charles smith ?

Debbie

Debbie Report 12 Dec 2007 21:52

was a thought

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