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Please where possible give full names and year of birth and birthplace.Thank you.Check back at your thread to check for replies from me.

Michelle

My apologises Lesley Ancestry seems to be having technical difficulties tonight! I just asked if others were having probs and appears they are. I will keep trying for you.Saw the 1861 census record but 1871 was not on the 1st page are you having probs finding it?

Regards

Michelle

No luck yet with 1871 will keep looking.

1861 England Census
about Jane Stewart
Name: Jane Stewart
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Stewart 1 Mo
Jane Stewart 38
Jane Stewart 6
John Stewart 13
Margaret Ann Stewart 14
Robert Stewart 39
Robert Stewart 9
Thomas Stewart 11
William Stewart 8

Could you help me with my Leslie children that I have never been able to find in 1861.

I have their parents William Adam b 1827 Warrington and wife Mary {nee Needham} b 1827 Manchester they are at 38 Lower Byrom street Manchester.


The missing children are:
Margaret Ann b 1849 Bolton
Mary Jane b 1853 Manchester
William b 1855 Manchester
Adelaide b 1857 Manchester
John Henry b 1859 Manchester
and Emily b1861 also Manchester, she was only Christened 7 days before the census was taken so can`t be too far away..

Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give me, this family have driven me mad for ages ...I can just find no trace of the children in 1861.

Nicky

Christine-Poss death of Mother Jane

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Jane Stewart
Name: Jane Stewart
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 50
District: Gateshead
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a

Nicky expect you have this one!They are a hard bunch to trace-will keep looking.

1851 England Census
about Mary Leslie
Name: Mary Leslie
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Adam
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Margeret Ann Leslie 1
Mary Leslie 24
William Adam Leslie 24

Michelle,

This is the correct family,
Yes thanks for that, but I already have them pre 1861, and the children that I know survived from 1871 onwards..... Iv`e always wondered if they simply "missed" them off the 1861..... though how you can have that many children and "forget" about them seems impossible. I should have said William and Mary both died in Sep. 1861, so if you look on a later census you won`t find them, I also beleive John Henry and Emily died just before their parents though I do not have the certs. to prove that, though they should all have been alive at the time of 1861 census.

Thanks again
Nicky

Nicky-Leslie children


1841 England Census
about William Leslie
Name: William Leslie
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Warrington
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Leslie 15
Dinah Leslie 8
Eliza Leslie 15
Isabella Leslie 15
James Leslie 4
John Leslie 12
Margaret Leslie 40
Mary Leslie 6
William Leslie 40
William Leslie 14

This i think is William's father from 1841 census listed with few kids with similar names and dates to some of the lost kids?Not exact but mistakes were made alot in those days especially by grandparents.Listed them as sons and daughters but there was no wife listed?Worth taking a further look maybe nothing but anything when you are stuck is worth a try.
1861 England Census
about William Leslie
Name: William Leslie
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Warrington
Ecclesiastical parish: Church
Town: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Leslie 25
John Leslie 32
Margaret Leslie 6
Mary Leslie 4
William Leslie 64
William Leslie 2

Nicky poss death for John Henry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Henry Leslie
Name: John Henry Leslie
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d

1871 census for Stewart family I think is listed under FEWART - a lot matches

Maureen

Nicky-Emily Leslie-Poor family 2 kids in one year!Must have both died of same disease i think?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Emily Leslie

Name: Emily Leslie
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d

Lesley when you check back is this the same family?Wife listed as Alice?But lydia(spellt Lidia)and Harriet are there and Charles birth place correct.
1851 England Census


1851 England Census
about Charles Sawing
Name: Charles Sawing
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
Betsey Reed 15
Alice Sawing 22
Charles Sawing 34
Eliza Sawing 1
Harriet Sawing 11
Jane Sawing 6
Lewis Sawing 9
Lidia Sawing 13

Poss marriage for Harriet


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Harriet Sawings
Name: Harriet Sawings
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c

Found this on a family tree on Ancestry are you sure wife was Jane?Worth checking.I think maybe Alice was his 2nd wife?Alice was born around 1829 so was not mother to Harriet and Lydia and is 1st found on the 1851 census with Charles


Charles sawings
Born: c,1818
Hackney

Spouse
Alice Hudson

1838-lydia sawings
1840–harriet sawings
1842–lewis sawings
1843–louisa sawings
1845–jane sawings
1850–eliza sawings
1854–charles w sawings
1856–Alice E Sawings

CHRISTINE
Thanks to glitter baby thread found this on 1871 census- error of Stewart looks like a match


1871 England Census
about Jane Fewart
Name: Jane Fewart
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead Fell, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sheriff Hill
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Frances C Fewart 10
Jane Fewart 16
Robert Fewart 54
Robert Fewart 20
William Fewart 18

Happy New Year!

Michelle, thank you so much for all your hard work, the family in 1841 is William Adam with his parents and siblings, I already have that I also have the death details for John henry and Emily in 1861 , i just hadn`t ordered the certs yet ,but am pretty sure thats them, the family you have in 1861.......intresting as you say the names match but the ages don`t..... but grandfather may not have been very good on ages { presuming he was the one who provided info to the census taker} so will have a closer look at this, if it is them "staying with grandad" it will at least account for 3 of them. William Adam died from Phisitis {TB} shortly after what looks like 2 of their children....... Mary then commited suicide 5 days after her husbands death..... she must have been in a bad way to leave 4 children with no parents.....Adelaide I have managed to trace on, she went on to marry and have many children, and Margaret {my Gr grandmother} went on to marry and have 8 children as well, so despite the awful tragedy in their childhood, they seem to have ended up ok.....I have never traced William or Mary Jane sucessfullly....... there are an awful lot of William Leslies and a few Mary Janes which would mean ordering quite a lot of certs. to try and get the correct ones, not a cheap hobby this family history! lol thanks again for your help, another pair of eyes always helps.




Nicky

Hi Michelle,
This is the family on 1881 but can't find them on1891, any help would be great,There is at least one other child Eliza abt 1882. Thank's Gill
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John BLUNN Head M Male 27 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Boatman
Eliza BLUNN Wife M Female 25 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Sophia BLUNN Dau Female 4 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Roseannah BLUNN Dau Female 1 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
John BETTS Assistant U Male 23 Oldbury, Stafford, England Boatman


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Source Information:
Dwelling No 40 Boats On Canal
Census Place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341672
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2807 / 101
Page Number 7

Michelle,

Realised as soon as I looked at it, that i have checked these children out before on the 1861....that is William Adams father with his brother John who married Kate/Catherine jones in 1854 in Warrington, and I had previously found the 3 childrens births all in warrington in 1854,1857 and 1859, the eldest Margaret has a middle name Atherton which is also the middle name of one of William Adams sisters, so thanks again but this is not MY missing Leslie children, but it is their cousins.

Nicky

Gill-here is John Blunn 1891 checking at mo for rest of family.John was part of crew.Census image mentions canal boat.Birth year makes him slightly older than 1881-but thats the norm with these census!Silly me shows i'm tired the family there too with him!


1891 England Census
about John Blunn
Name: John Blunn
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Blunn 43
Eliza Blunn 9
John Blunn 45
Mary J Blunn 11
Rosannah Blunn 13
Sophia Blunn 14
David Bossett 70
Mary Bossett 68
Mary Bossett 38
Joseph Bowdler 59
Sarah Bowdler 52
Edwin Capewell 22
James Capewell 25
Louisa Capewell 23
Maria Capewell 63
Mary J Capewell 3
Thomas Capewell 72
Hannah Carter 5
Jane Carter 25
Jane Carter 4
William Carter 26
Aaron Cooper 20
John Drayford 17
Thomas Drinkwater 32
Albert H Guest 1
Emma Guest 28
John Guest 30
John Guest 6
John Guffiths 25
John Hampton 23
Polly Hampton 21
John Hickman 67
James Instone 42
Mary A Instone 41
John Johnson 50
Sarah Johnson 49
Alfred Jones 24
Benjamin Luker 51
Lucy A Luker 23
Mary A Luker 52
Mary J Luker 14
Rose E Luker 6
Samuel Luker 12
William T Luker 17
Mary A Mastone 1
Frances Newman 41
Francis Newman 49
Fred Newman 4
Benjamin Pabrick 15
Clara Palin 34
Clara Palin 11
Louisa Palin 8
Richard Palin 36
Thomas Palin 4
William Palin 6
Eliza Paluck 4
George Paluck 39
John Paluck 8
Mary Paluck 34
Edward Payne 55
Florence Payne 14
Henrietta Payne 11
Mary J Payne 18
Thomas Pett 25
Henry Pitt 30
George Poxon 15
Harry Poxon 50
Mary Poxon 43
Eliza Ray 41
Mary J Ray 17
William Ray 40
William Ray 19
James Roberts 18
Samuel Rowson 38
John Sauders 26
Eliza Thomas 36
George Thomas 40
John Thomas 10
Mary A Thomas 4
Thomas Thompson 16
William Thompson 41
John Vogce 32
John Walker 27
Edwin Whitehorse 50
John Whitehorse 50
Edward Williams 30
Sarah Williams 35
Amelia Wood 1
Harry Wood 1/12
Jane Wood 40
Joseph Wood 30
Joseph Wood 4
Laurence Wood 2
Lucy Wood 5
Sarah Wood 28
Sarah Wood 10
William Wood 41
William Wood 13
Alice Yukin 9
Daniel Yukin 13

DOREEN

Hi do you have a wife for James?There is other records for yorkshire but would help to narrow down with a wife.Not to worry if you can't i will keep trying.

Another poss just mentions Yorkshire


1861 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Wilkinson 8
James Wilkinson 40
Sarah Wilkinson 35
Sarah Wilkinson 6

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1841 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Feffary 10
Sarah Holstead 20
James Wilkinson 20

Mentions working with stone for occupation

Michelle

Doreen-heres a good poss:

1851 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Fixby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Rastrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
John Holye 38
George Wilkinson 8
James Wilkinson 31
Jane Wilkinson 30
Mary Wilkinson 2
Wm Henry Wilkinson 6

John is the lodger he was a cart driver,your James worked with stone if this is the right one.

Michelle