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could you look up the 1901 census for a samuel george payne i think he was in pembroke dock then any additional information that you could find would be greatfully received. he was born about 1879 i have been tole in devonport but not very sure

Kerry

Sorry bout that i am running another thread and don't usually have any through this 1.
I do not have access to Irish birth records there are sites online where you can get info for that.Do a google search for County Kerry BMD records.
Had a look for death,hard when you have no idea when he died.Found these below for but does not say where he was born.Its impossible without some idea of roughlywhen he died to know which 1 is him sorry

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Vincent Martin
Name: Vincent Martin
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1935
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2004
Age at death (estimated): 69
Registration district: Brent
Inferred County: Middlesex
Register number: C44C
Entry Number: 19

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Vincent Martin
Name: Vincent Martin
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1928
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1997
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Register number: C32
Entry Number: 21

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Vincent Patrick Martin
Name: Vincent Patrick Martin
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1929
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 2003
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Cleveland
Register number: C15A
Entry Number: 204

Kerry

Will need further details than that to do a search.Approx year of birth,county.Give me these details and i will take a look.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,
Re ARTHUR GEORGE STANWAY - I was 11 when my grandfather died so I heard the story from him! He said he grew up in an orphanage ( I thought at the time he was there from a baby (Foundling?) but now know that was wrong.) and from there was sent to live and work with a baker around the age of 8 years old. He spoke of sleeping by the bakehouse ovens and living with the baker's family until he was trained and adult! He married in 1902 and then had a business of his own until he retired about 1925.That is all I knew until I started searching! I think I told you that in 1891 Arthur was at his father's (Abraham)
house in Manchester area. He was then 27 / baker so I know it is right. Also his brother Henry was there - he was with Abraham in 1871 Census in Norwood, Croydon. This is where the Arthur trail dies out until 1891. It will be driving you mad too! Please don't feel you have to keep looking!

On the Irish side - Arthur's mother Margaret Kirby - I know little; only her parent's names and birthplaces. Irish records are very difficult!

I have Margaret's birth certificate - 1841 Lambeth - and 1851 Census for the family at South St. Lambeth.- 6 children all born Lambeth. So by their ages I reckon the family had been in England by 1836. That's all I have found !

Thanks for your help - I'll understand if you feel you have to give up ! I reach that stage myself!
Best wishes - Joy

Hi Joy

I spent 3 hours looking last night!!Poor you must be driving you mad!
Couple of questions
1)May i ask how you know he was orphaned out?
2)I seem to remember an Irish connection to the family i maybe wrong i am working on lots of threads at the moment!Think it was Margarets side.

Have you checked for this?

I do think it is odd and i will keep looking when i have free time.

Michelle

Hi Michelle, Just found your message of yesterday - I'm never sure where to look for replies being somewhat of a novice! Think I may know now to look on my ' threads ' !

No, I have no clues about what different name - have read some place that orphanage children took the name of the employer they were placed with. May be I'm barking up the wrong tree!

Anyway, thanks for your efforts - I look and look without result! It really bugs me!

Bye for now - Joy

Michelle

Thanks as I thought it was a transcription error.No need to apologise not your fault.

Your are Marvellous and I really appreciate all your time and effort looking for the rellies.

Your a STAR.

And thank you so much.

Sue

Sue

Apologises for that!I had gone over my alloated amount of characters for reply i think and thats why last person Florence details were left off.

1891 England Census
about Florence M Robson
Name: Florence M Robson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Low Law, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31


Mary A Robson is the mum,its a census transcript error and should read 41 as you pointed out.Once i find a family i generally copy and paste it over and don't if busy always check for errors.
Very sorry about that.
So to recap there is no young daughter called Mary A this was the mother aged 41.
If you need anything else please let me know.

Michelle

Hi Michelle
Sorry to be a Pain.

Just seen 1891 census for Florence M Robson.

It hasn't finished the rest of the family,it finishes at the father.Nobody else on the list.

Also on the 1901 there is a Mary A Robson age 4 but if you have a look it says WIFE for Mary A Robson born 1897.

And could the Mary A Robson 4 be the mother and it has left off the 1,cos Mary A Robson should be 41 on the 1901 census.

Thanks for looking and your a Star.

Sue

Sue

1901 census for Lily.

1901 England Census
about Lily Robson
Name: Lily Robson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Tow Law, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton Park St Paul
Town: Witton Park
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Household Members: Name Age
Annie E Robson 9
Florence M Robson 11
Joseph Robson 44
Joseph Wm Robson 3
Lily Robson 14
Mary A Robson 4

3 new siblings!

1901 England Census
about Annie E Robson
Name: Annie E Robson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Witton Park, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton Park St Paul
Town: Witton Park
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Household Members: Name Age
Annie E Robson 9
Florence M Robson 11
Joseph Robson 44
Joseph Wm Robson 3
Lily Robson 14
Mary A Robson 4

1901 England Census
about Mary A Robson
Name: Mary A Robson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunniside, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton Park St Paul
Town: Witton Park
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Household Members: Name Age
Annie E Robson 9
Florence M Robson 11
Joseph Robson 44
Joseph Wm Robson 3
Lily Robson 14
Mary A Robson 4

1901 England Census
about Joseph Wm Robson
Name: Joseph Wm Robson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Witton Park, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton Park St Paul
Town: Witton Park
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Household Members: Name Age
Annie E Robson 9
Florence M Robson 11
Joseph Robson 44
Joseph Wm Robson 3
Lily Robson 14
Mary A Robson 4

Good luck with info and future searches.
Let me know if i can help further

Michelle

Sue

Hi here is the 1891 census looks like witnesses were her parents as mothers name is Mary Ann Robson.
As you said Joseph is a coal miner.I have listed siblings details 2 and will do a 1901 look up next for you.

1891 England Census
about Lily Robson
Name: Lily Robson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Low Law, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31


1891 England Census
about Joseph Robson
Name: Joseph Robson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Shield Row, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31


1891 England Census
about Mary A Robson
Name: Mary A Robson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunnyside, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31


1891 England Census
about Eliza J Robson
Name: Eliza J Robson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Low Spennymoor, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31


1891 England Census
about Ethel Robson
Name: Ethel Robson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunnyside, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Le Wear
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J Robson 10
Ethel Robson 8
Florence M Robson 1
Joseph Robson 34
Lily Robson 4
Mary A Robson 31

1891 England Census
about Florence M Robson
Name: Florence M Robson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mo

Hi Michelle

Thanks for your kind offer.

Is it possible for you to do 1891 and 1901 census look ups for

Lily Robson born 1884 Durham,Father is Joseph Robson he was a miner.

I have just recieved the marriage certificate for Lily,she was married in Tudhoe Durham to Herbert Beevor on 7th October 1908 at the time lily was living at 68 Stratton Street Spennymoor.
Mary Ann Robson was one of the witnesses also a Joseph Robson( don't know wether this is her brother or father.
If Possible would like to know if she had any siblings and her mothers name please.
Thanks in advance
Sue

Kerry

Is Vincent still living or do you need birth marriage and deaths records?Also if he is dead did he die in England or Ireland?

Roy and Joy

I am also running another thread on records board so have been busy.Sorry i hadnt had a chance to check further for you.
I have time tonight as i have finished 2 big look ups i was helping people with.
I can't promise you i can find him,but i am pretty stubborn and i don't give up easily!
You mentioned different name?any clues to that?

I will put any findings on this thread for you-if any!

Regards

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Just wondering if you have been able to find anything in 1871 and 1881 Census's for my Grandfather: ARTHUR GEORGE STANWAY b. 1863 Lambeth.?
Thankyou for all the stuff you've found so far about his family - that is all correct, including that ABRAHAM ( Arthur's father) had a brother George b.1843.
The only thing I'm looking for is ARTHUR'S where- abouts in the above mentioned Census. He was probably in Home/School for orphans at the time of 1871 Census and ' Placed Out ' with a baker for training in the 1881 Census so may have had a different name.

I realise it's not easy and don't expect you to labour too hard on it! Just let me know if you can't continue!
Contact: [email protected]

Many thanks anyway - Joy Stringer

Hi Michelle,
Thanks for all your info. re Arthur George Stanway and family. Yes I do have all that you have mentioned - finding all about his family was a total surprise to me. I thought he was all alone in the world - an orphan! In fact it was his mother who died in 1868 - his father remarried in 1871 and had Henry living with him. I have never been able to find anything about Arthur until 1891 Census when he was with his father and family! What a surprise that was! I know he was living with a baker from a very early age, where he was taught his trade. It is a mystery! You can reply direct to me if you wish.

[email protected]

nudge

nudge-free at mo

Michael

Sorry taken so long was out earlier and had a few to look up.I have been on yours for a while and nothing i'm afraid found about both of his wives and also saw Amelia in the 1841 census but he's nowhere!
Have you tried searching boat records around this time maybe he was away?Or he could be a census stray?Have you tried a google search for Sheffield strays?
Happy New Year to you and let me know if i can help anymore.

Michelle

Roy

Have you looked into the Irish connection on Margarets side is it poss Arthur went to stay with any of them?