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Roy

Did George(dad) have a brother called Abraham?Just found a 1851 census with both names in for the Lambeth area.

Roy-this is a tricky 1!Im breaking it down but its taking time.Lets start at the beginning...This i hope is the 1891 census you have with George-father?

1891 England Census
about Arthur Stanway
Name: Arthur Stanway
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil Parish: Gorton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Gorton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Marsh 16
Arthur Stanway 28
Emily Stanway 3
Florence Stanway 7
George Stanway 51
Henry Stanway 24
Herbert Stanway 9
Mary A Stanway 41
Maud Stanway 5
Rose Stanway 17
Ruben Stanway 14

Now i found this one...with his brother Henry mentioned on 1891 and Rose and Ruben,and father Abraham!Jobs matched for Henry on both census.We also have both mother Mary A

1881 England Census
about Henry A. Stanway

Name: Henry A. Stanway
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Abraham
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Windle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Brynn Street
Education:

Employment status:
View Image
Occupation: Joiners Assistant

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Stanway 40
Henry A. Stanway 15
Mary A. Stanway 30
Reuben Stanway 3
Rose A. Stanway 7

Think this is Henry's birth record-looks like his forenames move around too!.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Abraham Henry Stanway
Name: Abraham Henry Stanway
Year of Registration: 1865


Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d

This is Rose from above census's

1881 England Census
about Rose A. Stanway
Name: Rose A. Stanway
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Windle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Brynn Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Stanway 40
Henry A. Stanway 15
Mary A. Stanway 30
Reuben Stanway 3
Rose A. Stanway 7


All details match for her too,you may already have all this looks like dad is Abraham George Stanway is my guess with reversible forenames too going to check this and carry on with searching for the missing Arthur,Let me know if you have all this already.

Michelle

Hi Michelle , yes this is a difficult lady to find. I have seen the ones you have given me because all of the Mary A's were Mary Ann, not Alice also her Father's name was on her marriage cert. as Charles..Lab.

I thank you so much for your time and trouble Michelle..........Happy New Year

Lulli x

Hi Michelle,

Could you try to find the following person ( my Grandfather) in 1871 and 1881 Census. He was orphaned and ' put out ' to a Baker to learn the trade around 1870. Have him in 1891 and 1901.

ARTHUR GEORGE STANWAY ( reversible forenames)

Born 1863 Lambeth London Father Abraham George

May have been in workhouse/orphanage/school.

Thanks and a happy New Year

Lulli

Sorry been out for a bit! Taken a look-not much showing is there? tricky one this. I have a few like this in my tree and what i have found is the place of birth can differ from census to census and from person to person-ie Mum may give correct place of birth then grandad next census writes it as different and when the child grows up they often wrote place of birth as the last place they remember living as a child! Found this one Berkshire-East.Hanney but not Newbury but Husbands working tonight-not fair is it!so i'm online all eve once my daughter gets to bed so promise i will look further into this.

Here's one for now-

1851 England Census
about Mary A Sumner
Name: Mary A Sumner
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Ziba
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: East Hanney, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: East Hanney
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wantage
Sub-registration district: Wantage
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Henry R Sumner 1 Mo
Mary A Sumner 34
Mary A Sumner 2
Sarah Sumner 7
Selena Sumner 9
Ziba Sumner 37
Ziba Sumner 10

Happy New Year!

Hi Machelle,
Many thank's for finding my Blunn family, sorry so long getting back to you, I'v only just managed to turf grandchildren off computer.
Happy new year Gill

Hello Michelle,
I don't know if your offer still stands but I'm having no end of trouble trying to find out an ancestor on the 1841 census. I have tried Ancestry. com etc using all the various combinations of his name without any luck.
The ancestor is a JOHN (BULL) Binge born in c1786 I think in Yorkshire, but was baptised in Lincolnshire. His Mother was a CATHARINE BULL. He died in Sheffield in 1843. His wife and family were all living in Sheffield and his occupation was as a Pawnbroker.
Can you help please?
Michael

Hi Michelle and thanks for you offer.

I am looking for Mary Alice Sumner who from the 1871 census when she was married to George Rampton ,M.1869 in Mortimer , Berks .and born Newbury c1846.
I cannot find any record at all prior to the marriage except for a child born in 1866 in Rotherwick, Hants.
The child's name was Emma Jane Sumner ...I have the B. cert. but is named as Rampton on 1871 census.
Basically I am looking for Mary Alice Sumner before 1866

Many thanks Michelle......Lulli x

Hi Michelle Thanks for what you have come up with one name for a wife is a Jane Hepworth B1821 but not sure
on this regards Doreen

nudge-free now

Zoe

Do you know brother William's birth year?Found a 1901 for this family with a William and father a gardner and Hendon district maybe nothing but worth a look.No Annie but a daughter Lily.Are you certain of Annie's birth year?


1901 England Census
about William Rayner
Name: William Rayner
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Mill Hill, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Mill Hill St Paul
Town: Mill Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Rayner 41
Elizabeth Rayner 45
Lily Rayner 8
William Rayner 10


Let me know if you can,and i will look further for you.

Michelle

hi michelle
i'm trying to locate a Annie violet rayner parents she was born 1899 in hendon her father was a gardener and she had a brother called william. I've sent off for her birth cerf as i can't find her or them on the cenus at all.

nudge-free again

Doreen-heres a good poss:

1851 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Fixby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Rastrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
John Holye 38
George Wilkinson 8
James Wilkinson 31
Jane Wilkinson 30
Mary Wilkinson 2
Wm Henry Wilkinson 6

John is the lodger he was a cart driver,your James worked with stone if this is the right one.

Michelle

DOREEN

Hi do you have a wife for James?There is other records for yorkshire but would help to narrow down with a wife.Not to worry if you can't i will keep trying.

Another poss just mentions Yorkshire


1861 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Wilkinson 8
James Wilkinson 40
Sarah Wilkinson 35
Sarah Wilkinson 6

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1841 England Census
about James Wilkinson
Name: James Wilkinson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Feffary 10
Sarah Holstead 20
James Wilkinson 20

Mentions working with stone for occupation

Michelle

Gill-here is John Blunn 1891 checking at mo for rest of family.John was part of crew.Census image mentions canal boat.Birth year makes him slightly older than 1881-but thats the norm with these census!Silly me shows i'm tired the family there too with him!


1891 England Census
about John Blunn
Name: John Blunn
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Blunn 43
Eliza Blunn 9
John Blunn 45
Mary J Blunn 11
Rosannah Blunn 13
Sophia Blunn 14
David Bossett 70
Mary Bossett 68
Mary Bossett 38
Joseph Bowdler 59
Sarah Bowdler 52
Edwin Capewell 22
James Capewell 25
Louisa Capewell 23
Maria Capewell 63
Mary J Capewell 3
Thomas Capewell 72
Hannah Carter 5
Jane Carter 25
Jane Carter 4
William Carter 26
Aaron Cooper 20
John Drayford 17
Thomas Drinkwater 32
Albert H Guest 1
Emma Guest 28
John Guest 30
John Guest 6
John Guffiths 25
John Hampton 23
Polly Hampton 21
John Hickman 67
James Instone 42
Mary A Instone 41
John Johnson 50
Sarah Johnson 49
Alfred Jones 24
Benjamin Luker 51
Lucy A Luker 23
Mary A Luker 52
Mary J Luker 14
Rose E Luker 6
Samuel Luker 12
William T Luker 17
Mary A Mastone 1
Frances Newman 41
Francis Newman 49
Fred Newman 4
Benjamin Pabrick 15
Clara Palin 34
Clara Palin 11
Louisa Palin 8
Richard Palin 36
Thomas Palin 4
William Palin 6
Eliza Paluck 4
George Paluck 39
John Paluck 8
Mary Paluck 34
Edward Payne 55
Florence Payne 14
Henrietta Payne 11
Mary J Payne 18
Thomas Pett 25
Henry Pitt 30
George Poxon 15
Harry Poxon 50
Mary Poxon 43
Eliza Ray 41
Mary J Ray 17
William Ray 40
William Ray 19
James Roberts 18
Samuel Rowson 38
John Sauders 26
Eliza Thomas 36
George Thomas 40
John Thomas 10
Mary A Thomas 4
Thomas Thompson 16
William Thompson 41
John Vogce 32
John Walker 27
Edwin Whitehorse 50
John Whitehorse 50
Edward Williams 30
Sarah Williams 35
Amelia Wood 1
Harry Wood 1/12
Jane Wood 40
Joseph Wood 30
Joseph Wood 4
Laurence Wood 2
Lucy Wood 5
Sarah Wood 28
Sarah Wood 10
William Wood 41
William Wood 13
Alice Yukin 9
Daniel Yukin 13

Michelle,

Realised as soon as I looked at it, that i have checked these children out before on the 1861....that is William Adams father with his brother John who married Kate/Catherine jones in 1854 in Warrington, and I had previously found the 3 childrens births all in warrington in 1854,1857 and 1859, the eldest Margaret has a middle name Atherton which is also the middle name of one of William Adams sisters, so thanks again but this is not MY missing Leslie children, but it is their cousins.

Nicky

Hi Michelle,
This is the family on 1881 but can't find them on1891, any help would be great,There is at least one other child Eliza abt 1882. Thank's Gill
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John BLUNN Head M Male 27 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Boatman
Eliza BLUNN Wife M Female 25 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Sophia BLUNN Dau Female 4 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Roseannah BLUNN Dau Female 1 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
John BETTS Assistant U Male 23 Oldbury, Stafford, England Boatman


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Source Information:
Dwelling No 40 Boats On Canal
Census Place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341672
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2807 / 101
Page Number 7

Michelle, thank you so much for all your hard work, the family in 1841 is William Adam with his parents and siblings, I already have that I also have the death details for John henry and Emily in 1861 , i just hadn`t ordered the certs yet ,but am pretty sure thats them, the family you have in 1861.......intresting as you say the names match but the ages don`t..... but grandfather may not have been very good on ages { presuming he was the one who provided info to the census taker} so will have a closer look at this, if it is them "staying with grandad" it will at least account for 3 of them. William Adam died from Phisitis {TB} shortly after what looks like 2 of their children....... Mary then commited suicide 5 days after her husbands death..... she must have been in a bad way to leave 4 children with no parents.....Adelaide I have managed to trace on, she went on to marry and have many children, and Margaret {my Gr grandmother} went on to marry and have 8 children as well, so despite the awful tragedy in their childhood, they seem to have ended up ok.....I have never traced William or Mary Jane sucessfullly....... there are an awful lot of William Leslies and a few Mary Janes which would mean ordering quite a lot of certs. to try and get the correct ones, not a cheap hobby this family history! lol thanks again for your help, another pair of eyes always helps.




Nicky

CHRISTINE
Thanks to glitter baby thread found this on 1871 census- error of Stewart looks like a match


1871 England Census
about Jane Fewart
Name: Jane Fewart
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead Fell, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sheriff Hill
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Frances C Fewart 10
Jane Fewart 16
Robert Fewart 54
Robert Fewart 20
William Fewart 18

Happy New Year!